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Created as translation by banned sock

Note: this article was created as a machine translation from German by monolingual indeffed sock Beatley (talk · contribs). The translation is suspect, even where references exist, and should be reviewed by competent bilinguals. See User talk:Beatley/Archive 2#Machine translations. Mathglot (talk) 09:21, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

The article could even be re-written by an eighth grade English speaker! I'll do a bit, but this is tedious slogging. I think it could lose 50% of the text as repetitious or too much detail or just fluffy language.

Sock or no, it is a worthy article, and god knows people can run afoul of blocking on wiki for little more than farting in church. They are an interesting couple, and Germany's wrestling with its Nazi past is one of the more fascinating struggles in history. 184.69.174.194 (talk) 02:42, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Copy editing.

This translation was a mess. I could have typed a good translation in real time in less than half 2 hours it took me to get to 'Other engagement'. Somebody else please continue. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:17, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Many hands make light work...

'Refused the nomination'

"Led by Federal Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle, the German Foreign Office, which is responsible for the awarding of expatriate German nationals, refused the nomination." When a nomination is 'refused' doesn't that mean the recipient declines to accept it? In fact, the de:Auswärtiges Amt vetoed the award.

How about: "The award was contingent on the approval of the Foreign Office. The Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle declined to approve it." –EdJohnston (talk) 20:33, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Fine, thank you. JimRenge (talk) 22:08, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Summary of Klarsfelds poem

With this edit I have removed a sentence which does not appear to fit into an encyclopedia. The summary of her poem in one sentence is difficult to read and partly incomprehensible. Please let me know if you disagree with my editorial judgement. JimRenge (talk) 22:03, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

@JimRenge:, good call; better without it. Mathglot (talk) 22:28, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

"Nazi" vs. "German"

"Berlin, Nazi Germany" as a place of birth should in my view be replaced by "Berlin, Germany" or more formally "Berlin, German Empire" ("Deutsches Reich", as the nation was officially called between 1871 and 1945). "Nazi" is not a nationality, and anyone ending up here will realize the significance of the date. This ambiguity causes confusion elsewhere, as with the description of Klarsfeld's godfather as a "Nazi official" - was he an NSDAP official (i.e., in the service of the party), a German official (which can mean multiple things regarding his politics) or a German official with Nazi sympathies? Preciseness is important in such issues. --Ilja.nieuwland (talk) 09:23, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

I agree that Germany is more logical as a place of birth. Regarding Klarsfeld's godfather, if anyone can find the source of the 'Nazi official' attribution it could be revisited. Though it's unclear whether the question of who her godfather was is an item significant enough to include in the article (unless it was some well-known person). EdJohnston (talk) 15:00, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

If the question were about what expression to use in a section about a military opponent in the 1939-45 years, or about an official policy that caused people to be deported and annihilated, then there would be a real question, here. But as far as geography and the question of where the city of Berlin is located, that's much easier; this change is fine. Thanks for going the extra mile and opening the discussion. Mathglot (talk) 01:42, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

English

The English in this article is often completely obscure, and very hard to follow. It is not even clear what is sometimes meant. It should be completely rewritten by a native speaker. Perhaps it was originally written in French or even German. Jeffrey Moussaieff Masson (talk) 10:17, 15 May 2024 (UTC)