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Reference named "ARIA":

• From ARIA Charts: "ARIA Charts - Gold and Platinum ARIA Accreditation Awards". Australian Recording Industry Association. Retrieved 16 October 2011.
• From Battle Cry (Havana Brown song): Ryan, Gavin (15 August 2015). "ARIA Singles: Delta Goodrem 'Wings' Tops Australian Chart". Noise11. Retrieved 15 August 2015.

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"Gone" is not a single

"Gone" wasn't a single... it wasn't sent to radio. it was a promo single --Maorale (talk) 10:07, 13 July 2017 (UTC)--Maorale (talk) 10:07, 13 July 2017 (UTC) Promotional single. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maorale (talk • contribs) 10:11, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

The Way I Are (Dance with Somebody)

"The Way I Are (Dance with Somebody)" needs to be added to music videos. DatBoy101 (talk) 17:31, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

FFF isn't a single...in what world do people not realize that every song that gets released is called a single by blogs

Literally every blog calls new songs that are promo singles/instant grats "singles". Were really basing the legimitacy of someones discography on ******* People Magazine? Really? All of you editors who have been here for years should know that "singles" are not pre-order songs off itunes or random songs that get music videos but don't get sent out to radio. BlaccCrab (talk) 20:00, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Yeah it shouldn't be on there. It only got a video but no playlist placement, radio adds and promotion, what makes a single a single. The All Your Fault Pt 1 page also doesn't mention FFF as a single. Gone should be in the "other charted songs" section instead and F.F.F. removed. Milliondoses (talk) 12:34, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

It has never been established on Wikipedia that a song needs to be sent to US radio to be a single. Many editors cite WP:SINGLE? but that is an essay and is not policy. If the requirement for a song to be a single was to be sent to US radio, this would mean non-American artists that have never attempted to enter the US market have never had a "single" per se and that would be ridiculous. Songs don't also have to be sent to radio to make them a single in other countries—for instance, singing competition winners' singles are quite often not serviced to radio and I would generally say nobody disputes these being singles. One of Rexha's other articles not saying "F.F.F." isn't a single doesn't mean it isn't, and publications are often sometimes quite careful not to label pre-release tracks "singles", at least from what I see. Neither People nor Rap-Up are "blogs" and even if you dispute People magazine, I think Rap-Up has been around long enough to know the difference between a song and a single. Ss112 12:43, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

You act like Rap Up has clout or something. Almost every hip hop blog ever has called new songs released off pre-orders "singles" so quite frankly i don't know what you're talking about. Neither do any of the other editors who watch this page apparently. I can point out a thousand other songs that are called "singles" by Rap Up, Hot New Hip Hop, Hip Hop DX, etc which obviously are not. Instant grat songs that don't get released individually on iTunes, that don't get pushed to radio, are not singles. You and I have both seen this countless times over the years and you've never refuted before so why would you change your mind now. BlaccCrab (talk) 19:47, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

I wasn't the one who added who "F.F.F." as a single in the first place; that was Mn1548. I reverted you because it was sourced. Again, no hip hop blogs are cited as a source for this being a single. Rap-Up is not a blog; it's a magazine that became a website—and yes, I do think a print magazine that's been around since 2001 (longer than a lot of websites cited as sources on these types of articles) has relative clout. I see no reason why we should doubt it being a reliable souce. These apparent other editors who watch this page who disagree should join in the discussion. If they don't, then obviously they don't care enough. Ss112 00:51, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

A magazine that started in 2001 is even less likely than a hip hop blog to know how iTunes countdown singles and radio promotion works in the 2010's. BlaccCrab (talk) 15:04, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Being older doesn't mean one can't change with, learn and adapt to the times. Besides, you've already said recent (2010s) hip hop blogs don't know the difference between a full single and a promo either. It appears you believe no publication is reliable in calling something a single and it's up to a user to discern if it's an "instant grat" track, countdown/promotional single, or a full commercial single release (which, I assume, would include being sent to radio). But in most cases, we need sources backing that status up and articles from reliable sources are preferred over All Access radio add dates or the like... so then we're kind of back at square one. Ss112 20:48, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

How on earth are hip hop blogs preferred over the radio industries actual tracking site...you can't be serious. BlaccCrab (talk) 21:24, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

An actual blog isn't a reliable source (you brought up hip hop blogs, I pointed out neither of the sources on the article are blogs), so that's not what I was saying at all. If nobody else cares to contribute, I think this is about done because it's getting nowhere. Ss112 22:09, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Whatever "Reliable sources" you're referring to are definitely not preferred over the website that directly posts radio releases in these circumstances. Yeah, this is going nowhere because other editors are too lazy to get involved. BlaccCrab (talk) 00:21, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

WP:Reliable sources. Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Sources. Rap-Up is included on the latter. Also, again: It's already been pointed out multiple times, no policy or guideline on Wikipedia requires a song to have had a radio release in order to make it a single. Besides, the definition of a single is changing; less and less people are listening to the radio all the time. I hardly think that's the standard anymore. Not everything gets played on the radio. Some artists release singles that don't fit any type of radio playlist. It is not a requirement. It's 2017—there are many more ways to release a single through than to radio. Unless you really want to continue to argue the relevance of radio despite no Wikipedia policy requiring a song have one to make it a single, then I think this is done. Ss112 00:57, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

You say there are multiple ways to release a single besides radio, but this song didn't even get something like prominent playlist placement, just a video that was shot back before September of 2016, there are no instances of Rexha herself calling it a single as well, it being on the singles list is just kind off embarrassing and less than half true Milliondoses (talk) 22:32, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Is this still going? Are y'all still trying to revive this? I'm assuming you mean radio playlists—if I've just said it wasn't released to radio, why would it be being played on playlists at all? That's an irrelevant thing to bring up. Nobody is saying it's only a single because it got a video. We have sources calling it a single. Artists are not necessarily going to comment on every single they release. Everybody just expects that their new single is all they will talk about for a period of time now with social media—like I said, not necessarily. You can continue thinking it's embarrassing, but we have sources backing it up. Ss112 04:40, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

"Not 20 Anymore"

Rexha confirmed that the song will be released on August 30 here, but as you can see she said the song was not a single and that it was just "a treat". So that probably means it’s a promo single but what do other people think?Billiekhalidfan (talk) 15:14, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Bearing that in mind, I've gone ahead and moved it to the promotional singles section. Ss112 15:39, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

October 2022

So MikaelEmanuelsson and Jakubik.v let's get started. What are your concerns and problems with the updates done by me before I'am going to involve a third party? Iaof2017 (talk) 20:05, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Involve whoever you want to, but your edits make no sence, the page is totaly fine and you are making it worse. I will keep reverting your edits because they are against the wiki policy Jakubik.v (talk) 07:19, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

I agree with Jakubik.v, you're making it just worse. I don't understand why you reported me when you are the one that should be reported. Grow up. MikaelEmanuelsson (talk) 11:19, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

• Neither of you MikaelEmanuelsson and Jakubik.v are giving convincing arguments. Your preferred version wasn't abundantly provided with sources, I've given this article a good structure as per Wikipedia:Discographies/style, with a clearly arranged citation style. Iaof2017 (talk) 11:50, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

  Stop acting like that. Your edits are false and totaly useless. Do you understand that Scotland chart is no longer existing and still you are adding it instead of valid, still existing chart??!! So stop trolling this page. Jakubik.v (talk) 05:54, 9 October 2022 (UTC)