Talk:Bekić's theorem

Undiscussed spelling changes 20 January to č

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Beki%C4%87%27s_theorem&diff=1134740078&oldid=1131201302

These really should be reverted. In ictu oculi (talk) 11:24, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

 Done Looks like you've reverted them. And it agrees with the closed RM, so all is good. Mathnerd314159 (talk) 18:05, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 20 January 2023

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The result of the move request was: page not moved. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 21:55, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

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Bekić's theorem → Bekič's theorem – @2001:B07:ADD:E868:212B:932F:4CB4:97EA changed the spelling from Bekić to Bekič, and requested a technical move. @UtherSRG opposed, with the remark "A quick Google search tells me the current title is more common." Obviously it would be good to get this right. So far I have examined:

• The book, Programming languages and their definition. This uses the c with caron on the cover. The various papers look typewritten and use the c with acute accent, e.g. [1]. The foreword by Cliff Jones looks typewritten and uses no accents.
• [2], a 2016 paper coauthored by the Cliff Jones who authored the foreword, uses the caron accent throughout, but reproduces a "Formal definition of PL/I" report that uses no accents.
• [3] and [4] are other recent papers that also use the caron.
• IFIP obituary use the acute accent in the TOC and no accents in the typewritten obituary.
• In the sources I used in the article, Arnold uses the caron, while Winskel, Díaz-Caro, Harper, Leiss, and Andersen use the acute accent.

Overall it seems clear that the name is not spelled consistently. But it also seems plausible that the accent was omitted or the acute accent was used mainly in the context of old typesetting systems that did not have the c with caron character, and the newer usages of the acute accent are only repeating this distortion. I think that Cliff Jones in the recent paper is the most reliable usage, since he published Bekic's papers and would know him the best. So per Wikipedia:Article_titles#Follow_reliable_sources_for_names_of_persons I think the caron is the right choice. Mathnerd314159 (talk) 23:43, 20 January 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 07:36, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

• Strong oppose No such surname as Bekič, simply doesn't exist. Bekić is a Croatian name, and confirmed from birth certificate that his father was an Austrian Croat. So those sources are just typos, people with no knowledge of the difference between Czech/Slovak? and Croat taking a guess at the correct spelling and adding a diacritic but getting the wrong one. In ictu oculi (talk) 11:17, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
• Strong oppose The surname is almost certainly Bekić. I'm a native speaker of Croatian. --Killuminator (talk) 06:54, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

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