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Multiple issues make this a stub - please help with WP:RS SatuSuro 03:17, 13 March 2009 (UTC)Reply

Dear editors or original contributor, kindly clarify second to final paragraph. Why would the use of Bekisar roosters in vocal competitions cause the decline of the Green Junglefowl population? This seems to be non sequitor, and may require some explanation. Thank you for your addition. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Security sam (talkcontribs) 01:26, 20 March 2009 (UTC) Security sam (talk) 01:30, 20 March 2009 (UTC)Reply

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Tentang Ayam Bekisar

Dari Redaksi PI www.poultryIndonesia.com. Ayam Bekisar merupakan keturunan F1 hasil perkawinan ayam hutan jantan (Gallus varius) dan ayam Kampung betina (Gallus gallus domesticus). Bekisar dikembangkan sebagai ayam kesayangan untuk menghasilkan ayam hias yang indah bulunya, dan terutama untuk mendapatkan keindahan suaranya dengan suara kokok yang memikat.

Ayam Bekisar dapat mencapai harga yang sangat mahal. Warna bulu didominasi oleh warna bulu ayam Kampung betina yang digunakan, tetapi postur tubuh, sifat dan suaranya sangat tergantung pejantannya yaitu ayam Hutan Hijau. Pada awalnya penggemar Bekisar hanya menyukai warna Merah dan Hitam, saat ini warna ayam Bekisar sangat beragam bahkan keindahan warna bulu ayam Bekisar sering digunakan sebagai salah satu kriteria dalam lomba Bekisar. Warna dasar ayam Bekisar mempunyai delapan warna dasar favorit yaitu Merah, Hitam, Putih, Kuning, Wido, Kelabu, Blorok, dan Jali. Ayam Bekisar menjadi lambang fauna (maskot) Propinsi Jawa Timur. Ayam Bekisar berasal dari pulau Kangean, sebuah pulau kecil sebelah timur Madura, termasuk wilayah kabupaten Sumenep. Ayam ini menyebar ke seluruh pulau Madura, Jawa, Bali, dan Wilayah Lombok, Komodo, Flores. Selain di wilayah tersebut ayam Bekisar sulit dijumpai. Berdasarkan Wikipedia Indonesia, ada tiga jenis ayam bekisar :

  1. Gallus aenus yang berjengger bergerigi delapan kecil, pial berukuran sedang, warna bulu pada lapisan atas ungu dengan plisir kuning emas.
  2. Gallus temminckii memiliki jengger bergerigi emas, pial berwarna jambu, bulu merah mengkilap dan berplisir merah kecoklatan.
  3. Gallus violanceus dengan jengger bergerigi bagus, ukuran pial sedang, warna bulunya ungu dengan permukaan yang halus.

Beberapa macam ayam Bekisar yang terkenal keindahannya yaitu :

  1. Bekisar Kangean (Madura), dibentuk dari induk betina berbulu satu macam misalnya hitam, merah, putih, kuning, dan abu – abu.
  2. Bekisar Putih (Yogya), berwarna putih mulai dari paruh, hingga telapak kaki kecuali jengger, pial, dan cuping berwarna merah.
  3. Bekisar Hitam (Parakan), silangan dengan ayam Kedu Hitam betina. Bentuk tubuh tinggi, besar, tegap dan berbulu hitam.
  4. Bekisar Multiwarna (Solo), kaya akan warna dan suaranya sangat nyaring dengan ujung suara meninggi, ukuran tubuh sedang. Ayam Bekisar multiwarna mempunyai bulu warna – warni dengan bulu leher, bulu pelana, dan bulu hias berwarna merah menyala.

Needs to be checked to see if it can be used in the article or not - or for copyvio SatuSuro 03:20, 13 March 2009 (UTC)Reply

http://www.flixya.com/blog/2923909/How-Raising-Chickens-Bekisar <----- English version
Very interesting. Explains that ayam bekisar is a complex concept. The first list are the 3 basic "types"; they have been described as species in the 19trh century (aeneus and violaceus are the correct spellings), but this has been refuted. Darwin wrote about the issue, see The Variation of Animals and Plants under Domestication, chapter on chicken, intro of "Arguments in Favour of their Descent From Several Species" section. On March 23 1861 he wrote a letter to Sclater wherein he further mentions this issue.
Possibly, the preferred G. domesticus stock is called ayam kampung, but this may just be the Bahasa term for "landrace" (as in "take any landrace chicken you find and crossbreed it with G. varius"). In the full text, there is mention of the domestic chicken used are Javan landraces and specifically (for "crower" bekisar) the id:ayam pelung.
These 3 are morphs of the ayam bekisar, presumably according to G. domesticus-G. varius allele combination. They refer to the "bekisar" of Java and surroundings (a provincial emblem of East Java as it is), not to any Polynesian or South American chicken. They could collectively warrant another article Ayam bekisar, as they are not the same as the (much wider) "bekisar" concept. The females would almost always be sterile, but the males can at least sometimes used to introduce G. varius genetic material into the domestic chicken gene pool, and this is where the "bekisar" of the entire Austronesian region came from.
But on Java, things developed differently. The second list are 4 ornamental breeds ("kinds") descended from the basic ayam bekisar in its area of origin. These are kept by chicken fanciers, the eggs and meat being more of a byproduct, and are typical breeds of particular regions (eastern Java, south-central Java, ?western Java and north-central Java). Think Belgian show pigeons. They have proper names (ayam bekisar kangean etc) and could warrant own articles. Though they are apparently all F2 or later hybrids, their maintenance seems to depend on periodic crosses of selected domestic hens with G. varius cocks.
I have below added the full English translation, in case the original webpage gets deleted; I have hidden it as a comment (it is just as long as the above). Edit page to read. Translation is somewhat shaky here and there (mainly specialist terms, "pheasant" for "junglefowl"; overall it is quite good), so the Bahasa source should be the primary one. The "three types" part is from Indonesian Wikipedia, it can be copied without restrictions. A source given there is [1], which is in my experience sometimes a bit obsolete in the details, but reliable as regards the overall picture (it also has scholarly sources; the 1994 article is by now refuted in the strictness of its claims). Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 22:10, 13 May 2011 (UTC)Reply
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Plagiarism

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This article seems to lift the text from this webpage wholesale.

Now, other sites has the same exact paragraphs, so it will take a while to find who actually wrote the original text. However, we on Wikipedia can't really keep it around. Added to that is the issue of the text being both informationally essential and largely unsourced; i haven't found proper literature discussing the Green Junglefowl's resistance to salt and dehydration.

This will take a while to resolve.Anthropophoca (talk) 06:39, 1 April 2022 (UTC)Reply