Talk:Belgian government in exile/GA1
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Reviewer: Retrolord (talk · contribs) 11:08, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
Comments to come shortly. ★★KING RETROLORD★★ 11:08, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
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editCould you fix the [citation needed] tags please? ★★KING RETROLORD★★ 11:26, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
"Nevertheless, Belgium was invaded" Not sure "Nevertheless" is the right word here. I can't quite explain it but is there another way to phrase this bit? ★★KING RETROLORD★★ 11:26, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
- Done!Brigade Piron (talk) 14:13, 20 July 2013 (UTC) Done
"without warning" I'm not an expert in this area, but where they totally unsuspecting of an invasion? Do your sources say anything about them expecting their treaties to be respected? ★★KING RETROLORD★★ 11:26, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
- It's hard to tell for sure, but I imagine they were just a bit naïve; the Netherlands had survived WWII as a neutral country, ditto Switzerland. I'm not sure where I'd be able to find a precise reference to support it though. What I meant in the sentence was that there was no formal declaration of war by Germany before the invasion.Brigade Piron (talk) 19:53, 20 July 2013 (UTC) Done
I made a few copy edits to the article for minor issues instead of bringing them up here. If you disagree with any of them let me know. ★★KING RETROLORD★★ 11:26, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
- Absolutely, all fine!Brigade Piron (talk) 14:13, 20 July 2013 (UTC) Done
Can we have some citations in the two "Government of Four" tables please? ★★KING RETROLORD★★ 11:26, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
- There's a citation (Yapou) in the top left hand corner which I think looks neater? It's all covered in the text but has no page numbers so saves just citing the same link multiple times.Brigade Piron (talk) 14:13, 20 July 2013 (UTC) Done
I think the entirety of the "Changes" section doesn't really comply with criteria 3B. Is it ok if we remove it? ★★KING RETROLORD★★ 11:26, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
- The problem with that would be that it would totally neglect the considerable changes which took place. The government, after all, went from two to eight-ish people. The "changes" section exists in order to highlight the difference and because it is possible to do a representative cross section at any one point. What specifically is criteria 3B? I'm working on the other points by the way!Brigade Piron (talk) 14:13, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
- Not done I can understand your point, however I think the section is a bit too long, and takes up a bit too much of the article detailing every change in the government. Would it be possible to turn it into a paragraph, still mentioning the major changes? ★★KING RETROLORD★★ 09:04, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- I can certainly see your point here, but I'm not sure it could be made into text. Apart from anything else, I'm not sure I could draw a distinction between "major" and "minor" changes. It could be moved into two columns (or possibly table format?) if absolutely necessary? --Brigade Piron (talk) 13:49, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- Is it possible to "compress" the table somehow, so it takes up less space? ★★KING RETROLORD★★ 14:38, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- I could make it <"small"> (I guess) but I think that might not be preferable? Brigade Piron (talk) 15:45, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- Is it possible to "compress" the table somehow, so it takes up less space? ★★KING RETROLORD★★ 14:38, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- I can certainly see your point here, but I'm not sure it could be made into text. Apart from anything else, I'm not sure I could draw a distinction between "major" and "minor" changes. It could be moved into two columns (or possibly table format?) if absolutely necessary? --Brigade Piron (talk) 13:49, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- Not done I can understand your point, however I think the section is a bit too long, and takes up a bit too much of the article detailing every change in the government. Would it be possible to turn it into a paragraph, still mentioning the major changes? ★★KING RETROLORD★★ 09:04, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- The problem with that would be that it would totally neglect the considerable changes which took place. The government, after all, went from two to eight-ish people. The "changes" section exists in order to highlight the difference and because it is possible to do a representative cross section at any one point. What specifically is criteria 3B? I'm working on the other points by the way!Brigade Piron (talk) 14:13, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
" In December 1944, a new triparate government was formed, with Pierlot still as Prime Minister. In 1945, having been Prime Minister since 1939, Pierlot was finally replaced by Achille Van Acker. The government in exile was one of the last governments in which the traditional parties which had dominated Belgium since its creation were still present. In 1945, the POB-BWP changed its name to the Belgian Socialist Party (PSB-BSP) and the Catholic Party became the Christian Social Party (PSC-CVP)." Can we add some citations to this please? ★★KING RETROLORD★★ 11:26, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
- Done Brigade Piron (talk) 19:46, 20 July 2013 (UTC) Done
Thats all for now, thanks Brigade! ★★KING RETROLORD★★ 11:26, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
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edit"Relations with the Resistance" In this section you use the word nevertheless twice in one paragraph, could you fix that please? ★★KING RETROLORD★★ 09:00, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
"The government was later able to successfully lobby for the creation of a Belgian Section within the Royal Navy, as well as the creation of two all-Belgian squadrons within the Royal Air Force." Could you ref this please? ★★King∽~Retrolord★★ 05:28, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- Done!
Apart from that its a pass as far as I'm concerned. ★★King∽~Retrolord★★ 05:28, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- Passed! ★★King•Retrolord★★ 08:57, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks! Brigade Piron (talk) 08:59, 24 July 2013 (UTC)