Talk:Bell Rock Lighthouse

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What was wrong with the bit about the legend and the connection with the Robert Southey poem?--JBellis 21:55, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Nothing, see just one good reference here. Restoring. --Air 22:18, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

I added the map refs via template geolinks-US-countyscale. It's not the most ideal, but geolinks-sat doesn't appear to work properly. Stephen.frede 13:32, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Paragraphs 3&4 in the summary may need rearranging - it's pointless mentioning Stevenson in p3 before he's been properly introduced ("a Scottish engineer, Robert Stevenson", complete with link) in p4. --Fuzza409 04:36, 4 December 2006 (UTC) The text of this article matches the TV program and not the book which goes into greater detail regarding the lighthouse. Much of it is therefore incorrect as it relates the artistic licence which Deborah Cadbury herself admits she had to use in many of the episodes, and not the facts as presented in her book.

Helicopter accident

While the account of the helicopter accident is interesting, it is far too long and not written in encyclopaedic style and has no references. It is as long as the balance of the article. It should be re-writted in a more concisely in a style matching the rest of the article.Silverchemist (talk) 01:33, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

I agree. Since nothing has been done to solve this in 6 months, I'll add the cleanup tag. Octothorn (talk) 17:56, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Most importantly the date is incorrect. The Helicopter Crashed on December 15th. My father was the pilot.Paul Beart —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.52.98.202 (talk) 02:19, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Oldest surviving sea-washed lighthouse?

I doubt whether it is really true that the Bell Rock Lighthouse is indeed the oldest surviving sea-washed lighthouse. The 17th century Phare de Corduan in the Gironde mouth, France, is definitely older, it may only be questioned if it qualifies as "sea-washed" since it is surrounded by a small polygonal bastion. Anyhow, it resides on a sand-bank that is totally immerged during high tide.

Well I'm not certain about this anymore given what you've written above, but I've always been under the impression that the Bell Rock lighthouse was the first sea-washed lighthouse built. Certainly that's what I've read and heard in documentaries. Fionnlaoch (talk) 23:24, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Smeaton's Tower is the third and most notable Eddystone Lighthouse, in use 1759 to 1877, a stump still existing on the spot. I do not know if that makes it a "surviving sea-washed lighthouse"? The upper part is saved on land! Seniorsag (talk) 16:19, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Copyright problem removed

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Seven Wonders

This article reads like a summary of the BBC Seven Wonders of the Industrial World episode on the Bell Rock Lighthouse. It lacks citations that verify the material. I'm not sure how historically accurate the BBC show was, but a TV dramatisation is hardly a reliable source. Wikipeterproject (talk) 00:36, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Sunday working

The article states "Much to their displeasure, Stevenson requested, in order for the lighthouse to be completed in time and on budget, that they work on the Sabbath. Despite Stevenson's insistence that they were doing the Lord's work, most of the men refused on the grounds that such an action would be ill received by God"

According to R L Stevenson's Records of a Family of Engineers,Chapter 3, which is, apparently, taken from Robert Stevenson's diary account of the construction,that while there was some reluctance at first the majority of workers were prepared to work on a Sunday. "The sailors, from their habits, found no scruple on this subject, and all of the artificers, though a little tardy, also embarked, excepting four of the masons, who, from the beginning, mentioned that they would decline working on Sundays"

The Building of the Bell Rock - Operations of 1807

Does anyone know differently?

--Panama1958 (talk) 12:00, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Location

It would be useful if there was a map showing where the tower was (like the map of Eddystone Lighthouse, but with location shown). Anyone who knows how to find a map in public domain or who can make simple map? Seniorsag (talk) 16:22, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Well you can get it by clicking on the coordinates: the Open Street Map version does at least show the rock whereas Google and Bing just show open sea. There is a map in Stevenson's 1824 account which also shows the Isle of May and Carr Rock beacons. But the print is very small so a thumbnail will hardly show anything but an anonymous coastline. Even Dundee only shows when you look at it full size (2000 pixels). Shall I try loading it? Chris55 (talk) 10:50, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

I've added a pushpin map to show the offshore location to see what that looks like (it can be easily removed). The pushpin map only allows one location, and makes the infobox quite long. The alternative is to have a separate map outside the box, showing the lighthouse and other locations...Jokulhlaup (talk) 17:34, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Weird bug?

So the date of automation is 1988 in the text but says 1998 in the side bar on the right under 'automated' but... it's 1988 if i click 'edit' in both... what on earth is happening and is this happening for other people? It's 1998 for me if i view source as well.

Too detailed?

I find the play-by-play description of the construction section to be without purpose. Just because someone wrote it down doesn't mean it should be copied into the wiki. The poor horse. IndigoOrchid (talk) 19:39, 30 September 2023 (UTC)