Talk:Beluga (sturgeon)

Discussions from 2006 and 2007

Isn't there something about beluga sturgeons now being raised in fish farms outside of Russia and surrounding countries? I heard something about fish farms raising these in Florida. Liist 00:34, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

This article is really full of bullshit, I really asked me what references were used for this...

This article is in need of some serious clean-up.

Yes. It seems like nearly every paragraph has a comparison with the Mekong catfish or some other fish, which is confusing and quite unnecessary. I guess I'm guilty of this myself, having added the Ocean Sunfish comparison... oh, well. PenguinJockey 15:53, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I have deleted this nonsense: "While the beluga rules the rivers that it lives, being larger than most species of crocodile, when young, it is potential prey for brown bears, crocodiles and adult sturgeons. In egg stage, it has even more enemies, as it is possible that, like tadpoles and sharks, the baby belugas may eat beluga eggs. Despite its huge size, there has been no case of a beluga attacking or killing a human. Even human property (handbags, clothes, boats etc) have not been known to be attacked by belugas, regardless of the beluga's size. The smaller pirarucu has been known to eat children, though this is rare. However, it is also true belugas don't eat prey large in comparison to their body size; humans may be too large, and their babies are usually under their protection. The same applies for other sturgeons." but they page has been locked.Vitoldus44 23:34, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

And also this one "When in open ocean, the beluga's predators include killer whales, sharks and perhaps sperm whale." I'll check on occurrance in the Adriatic Sea, although it is not very likelyVitoldus44 23:36, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

this needs cleaning

1. the bit about living up to 150 years is a myth. sturgeons live at a maximum of about 80 years. 2. the bit about it being the largest freshwater fish with "unconfirmed reports" is a bunch of shit —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.211.169.9 (talk) 04:53, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

I have modified the age to match that given by Fishbase. Regardless of the truth of unconformed reported max. size, they are worthy of inclusion in the article, as long as it is clear they are unconfirmed (exactly as done in published sources). This is no different to claimed max. size in the majority of other large species, be that Lions, Elephants, Arapaimas, Blue Whales, Green Anaconda, etc, etc. Rabo3 (talk) 02:03, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

3. The second sentence - isn't the great white shark the largest carnivorous fish on the planet? Perhaps I'm missing something. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.52.110.124 (talk) 22:00, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Assessment

Assessed mid-importance for WikiProject Fishes because of conservation status. Neil916 (Talk) 23:56, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

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President Obama eats caviar

This is an article about a fish and is not a soapbox. George Bush did the exact same thing (http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2002/05/26/White-House-Watch-Caviar-Anyone/UPI-52531022432825/) and so has probably every world leader who has visited Russia but as far as this article is concerned it's not within it's scope and would turn it into a pointless collection of people who've eaten caviar (once as a guest of a 'good' producer of the product??) rather than about the fish itself. See WP:NOT or pretty much any other article on an animal for further information and why the addition is inappropriate. RutgerH (talk) 03:02, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

This entry is also about showing how the fish is endangered and why it is endangered. If you like you should post the Bush article and a snippet from it also. Stop deleting important information. Not sure if you noticed but the fish is endangered and if you censor talk about it then you will never see a resolution to solve the problem. This posting isnt an attack against Obama, it is to make a point that our world leaders do not take seriously the endangerment of species. If we follow your way of thinking then we should remove any information on the beluga sturgeon that says it is endangered. To sit there and say there is a problem and not talk about why it is a problem is a waste of time and pointless to solving the problem.--Juniorxin (talk) 14:17, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Notability

A topic can also be considered notable if it meets the criteria outlined in one of the more subject-specific guidelines: Academics, Books, Criminal acts, Films, Music, Numbers, Organizations & companies, People, and Web content.

If a species is endangered and you kill it you are committing a crime. It is a Criminal Act and falls under Wikipedia's definition of notability. --Juniorxin (talk) 14:39, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Billions of people eat fish and so the act of eating a fish isn't notable unless under special circumstances. The leader of a country being served a farmed product as the invited guest of another country isn't special and certainly isn't a criminal act. PETA has nothing to say on this which I'm guessing for those reasons. Two users don't make an overwhelming concensus but it still is one so accept it. RutgerH (talk) 06:14, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, please stop Juniorxin. There is no real debate as to the non-notable nature of this addition, and you are in danger of violating 3RR ([1], [2], [3]). We can get more feedback on this from more people, but that is a tedious process and a waste of time and there is zero chance that your addition will remain. There are many useful contributions that could be made to this article, regarding the ecology, behavior, history, cultural value, exploitation, etc. of the species, but yours is not one of them. Best, Eliezg (talk) 10:33, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

I have shown you based on Wikipedia rules of notability that it is worthy of staying posted but you give no feedback on why it should be removed based on your reasons. If anyone is violating 3RR rules it is you not me. The is no consensus on this because you have deleted the posting without starting a discussion. I am the one that had to start the discussion because you all deleted the posting which I might add is vandalism. --76.73.154.119 (talk) 04:44, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Explain how killing an endangered species is not a criminal act? Based on Wikipedia rules a criminal act is notable and can be posted. You are not suppose to delete postings without discussing them first. Please answer my question. --76.73.154.119 (talk) 04:48, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Please stop deleting this without discussion. And if you want a consensus you need to get more people involved in this discussion. Deleting postings without discussion is vandalism. --76.73.154.119 (talk) 04:51, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Deletion without discussion is not vandalism a priori. Violate the three revert rule and you will be blocked. Please note that the removed text also was also a copyright violation, and certainly outside of the manual of style. Adding it back verbatim is certainly prohibited and may result in a block. As for the content, I am unclear on why this should be added to the article? If it merely because of your determination of illegal activity, it constitutes original research. Neither source reported that Obama's actions were illegal. That determination can not be made in Wikipedia; it must come from an outside reliable source. Please also note that calling the act criminal without a source indicating it is, strictly speaking, a violation of the biography of living person policy. Is there another reason to include this material in the article? If you need additional input, feel free to look at dispute resolution. If you have any questions, let me know. --TeaDrinker (talk) 01:48, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Size of the largest recorded specimen

What is the size of the largest recorded specimen? I saw that in older verisons of the page said that the 7.2 m long specimen was 1476 kg in weight, but later a noname editor ported it to 1571 kg, and that was his/her only edit, as you can see here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/123.211.94.69 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Beluga_%28sturgeon%29&type=revision&diff=458614972&oldid=447248287 Wich is the correct of them if any of them? Can someone check it? --User:Christina1969 12:07, 23 may 2015(UTC)

To add to article

Basic information to add to this article: the literal meaning/etymology of the word huso. 173.88.246.138 (talk) 15:38, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

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