Talk:Ben Ferencz

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Latest comment: 4 years ago by 2001:16B8:C128:3700:609B:8BFF:B3A9:9ADA in topic Why so vague?


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  1. His middle name comes from the title of the fact sheet sold by Thomson Gale, as listed on amazon.com. Thus there cannot be any question of "unfair competition" or some such by our using this possible competitor as a source. Lupo 10:42, 13 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
  2. His precise birthdate is no secret as it's given on his own web site (and also at the German Wikipedia, and the NAPF bio). Lupo 10:42, 13 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
Re exact birthdate, erring on the side of deletion per WP:BLP. If you feel that this is important to put back in, go ahead and I won't take it out again. Nice work on expanding the article! Crust 20:36, 13 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
I've re-added it. His exact birthdate already readily accessible on the web (including on his own web site!) and it's more accurate to include it. Also, it takes a little more than just a birthdate to pull off an identity theft (which seems to be the reasoning at WP:BLP), especially in the case of a public figure like Mr. Ferencz. Lupo 20:28, 14 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

12:30, 25 May 2015 (UTC)12:30, 25 May 2015 (UTC)12:30, 25 May 2015 (UTC)12:30, 25 May 2015 (UTC)~ Romania

On his dedicated page, http://www.benferencz.org/#bio, we read that it's born in "the Carpathian Mountains of Transylvania in 1920". He is born in Romania, the city Satu-Mare [1]. On his site we read that his family left Romania when he had ten month!!! On BF wiki page we read: "[...]the family left Romania to evade the persecution of Hungarian Jews after Transylvania was ceded from Hungary to Romania by the 1920 Treaty of Trianon after World War I.[4]" This idea it is political incorrect. Historical inadequate. The Persecution if Hungarian Jews was an European phenomena, not a consequence of Trianon Treaty. Hungary, later, after Hitler diktat (1940), have responsability for many persecutions on Jews. User: Marius Dobrin, 2015, 25th May — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.79.223.42 (talk) 12:30, 25 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

Orphaned references in Benjamin B. Ferencz

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I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Benjamin B. Ferencz's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "fa1990":

  • From Joseph Stalin: "Chronology 1990; The Soviet Union and Eastern Europe." Foreign Affairs, 1990, p. 212
  • From Katyn massacre: "Chronology 1990; The Soviet Union and Eastern Europe". Foreign Affairs. 1990. p. 212.

Reference named "Silitski":

Reference named "Fischer":

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT 10:47, 6 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

wwii

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in a 2017 interview on sixty minutes, he said he tried to become a pilot but was too short and that the marines rejected him outright, so he finished his legal studies and then enlisted as an army private. Kdammers (talk) 16:01, 12 May 2017 (UTC)Reply

Birthday

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So what is his correct birth date? Other languages state he was born on March 11, 1920, whereas the English wikipedia says July 13, 1919. What is correct? --85.16.16.187 (talk) 13:38, 13 October 2018 (UTC)Reply


NOT ROMANIAN BIRTH

he has born in hungary. because máramaros, where he has born was part of hungary until the treaty of trianon, which occured in 1920 june 4th. so, the information is incorrect. also his name indicates that he is born to a hungarian speaking family, which is also mentioned in the article. nevertheless the wrong statement in the begining says "romanian-born". thats wrong. it is to be changed — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dasuprmastr (talkcontribs) 17:39, 22 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

Awards

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@Smuckola: What do you even mean by this, you can read and copy and paste as well as anything? The only mention of Ferencz in the source you added is in regard to the nomination of a film called A Man Can Make a Difference for the 2016 Cinema for Peace Award for Justice, and it is that—a nomination, not a win, and of a film, not Ferencz himself.

The only thing I could find resembling the original claim is this video, but it's all over the place. The title says 2012 but one of the opening title cards says 2011. It seems it happened at an event called the "Justice Gala" held as part of the International Criminal Court's Assembly of States Parties on 11 December 2011.[2] The first title card indicates the "Justitia Lifetime Achievement Award" is what he received, but this, on a German website called "RedCarpet Reports", is the only thing that comes up when I google the name of the award. Cite this gossip site if you want, but he definitely did not receive the 2016 Cinema for Peace Award for Justice. Nardog (talk) 13:30, 22 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

Why so vague?

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quote - "Ferencz was born in Transylvania, which was part of Hungary at that time. A few months later, it was ceded to Romania under the Treaty of Trianon (1920), the result of World War I. When Ferencz was ten months old, his family emigrated to the United States which, according to his own account, was to avoid the persecution of Hungarian Jews by the Romanians after they had gained formal control of Transylvania.[5]


Why did the persecution of Hungarian Jews by the Romanians matter to Ferencz's familiy? Could it be, that they were Hungarian Jews too? - Why is it not possible to state this clearly? - Because it is to be understood anyway? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:16b8:c128:3700:609b:8bff:b3a9:9ada (talk) 15:02, 7 November 2020 (UTC)Reply