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I have created this page using material from the Flounder's Folly page; as I said on that page's Talk area, far too much of it was about the man himself and had no relevance to the folly. Jon Rob 13:17, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Identity of 'Lord Robert Clive' of 1840

The identity of Lord Robert(sic) Clive deserves investigation. To my knowledge there was not such person of that name and title in Shropshire in 1840. There were two related owners of land in that area of south Shropshire:

- The Honourable Robert Henry Clive (1789-1854), of Oakley Park, whose eldest son was born in 1824 and would not have come of age in 1840 (but in 1845).

- The (2nd) Earl of Powis, Edward Herbert (ne Clive) (died 1848), owner of Ludlow Castle, was R.H. Clive's eldest brother who assumed the Herbert surname on his father, the 1st Earl, succeeding to the Powis Castle estates. He succeeded to his father's Earldom in 1839. The 2nd Earl's eldest son, also called Edward, was born in 1818, making 1839 the year of his coming of age (21 years) but from 1839 he was styled Viscount (often referred to as 'Lord') Clive until he succeeded to the Earldom in 1848.Cloptonson (talk) 17:47, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

The Folly - When Culmington estate inherited

It would be desirable to indicate when he inherited the estate, the section as it appears may give impression it had been inherited only a few years earlier to building the folly. So far I have found two apparently conflicting sources. His biography, How durst he do that gives 1810 as the year, but the sketch on the website of the Flounders Folly Restoration Project states his uncle left the estate to him in 1807. Further checking needed if mention is desired.Cloptonson (talk) 21:34, 13 June 2012 (UTC) I have read in How durst he do that, which is based on much archive material, that Gideon Bickerdike died 15 October 1810, so I will date the inheritance to that year when Bickerdike's will would have been activated.Cloptonson (talk) 17:55, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

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