Talk:Bennington Triangle
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Lack of Refs
editOk... there are 2 references listed and one is a dead link to a Geocities webpage. There has been a references needed label since April. I'm cutting everything not sourced. If you have a reference put it back in with verifiable references.Simonm223 (talk) 21:03, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
- The one remaining reference is also a dead link. Prodding.Simonm223 (talk) 03:21, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
- Hold on... the article actually lists quite a lot of references (see the bullet point list at the bottom of the page). What it is lacking are in-line citations. (there is a difference).
- While I have not checked these refs personally, they at least give an indicatation that the subject might be notable... and that indication is enough that a prod is not sustainable. Double check the listed refs, see if they do or do not support the material in the article... and if not, then send this to AfD. Blueboar (talk) 14:36, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
- Back issues of 50 year old magazines do not make good references to build a case for notability upon IMO. Still, will hold off on AFD to check some of the more reasonably check-able resources.Simonm223 (talk) 14:58, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
- Assessing the references:
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- Dead link
- Adams, Mary Gavel "The Bennington Monster." Green Mountain Whittlin's, 1950
- 59 year old periodical. Not reasonably verifiable.
- Stock, R.D.; Zeller, J. "The Strange Disappearances at Mt. Glastenbury." FATE, July 1957
- 52 year old periodical. Not reasonably verifiable.
- Brandon, Jim. Weird America. Penguin Publishing |Year=1978
- 31 year old book. I have not checked this yet, more later.
- Jacobs, Sally. "Ghost Towns." Burlington Free Press|Year=Oct 25, 1981
- Only reference I could find on line to Sally Jacobs and Ghost Towns was in a book by Joseph Citro. No references to her primary sources. Furthermore reference is not 17 years old (as I previously posited, it is 28 years old.
- Citro, Joseph A. Green Mountain Ghosts, Ghouls, and Unsolved Mysteries. University of New England/ Vermont Life, 1994
- Primary source.
- Citro, Joseph A. Passing Strange: True Tales of New England Hauntings and Horrors.
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Globe-Pequot, 1997
- Primary source.
- Checking for the Jim Brandon book now to see if I can dig it up.Simonm223 (talk) 15:08, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
- Update: I looked up Jim Brandon and found out that this is actually a pseudonym for William N. Grimstad, a conspiracy theorist. I confirmed that Weird America is a real book although it isn't on google books or available online that I can find so I can't confirm that it contains anything that would count as a verifiable source for commentary on Citro's proposition. I don't want to look too hard at Grimstad as I am at a work computer and the first page of google links to his name mostly brings up white supremicist sites. I'm AfDing as I am now convinced that none of the bullet-point sources constitute RS.Simonm223 (talk) 15:16, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
References
editThis is a bit of a mess. Please see [1] for guidance. We should have citations in the articles to the references, and those should, please, include the author, name of the book if a book, the publisher (lacking for most), year, I always include the ISBN, and of course the page number or pages. Dougweller (talk) 18:01, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
- I agree its a bit of a mess. I threw in a bunch of new references in the last hour and will try to go back, but was most interested in proving notability first. --Milowent (talk) 18:04, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
- Adding more information on the five people who were reported to have disappeared. Also, added links to where I got the info. Narum Sin (talk) 18:03, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
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Plagiarism?
editIt looks like the individual accounts are a word for word copy/paste of the article here. Does this constitute plagiarism, rather than citing a source? 79.75.201.9 (talk) 13:33, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks. I checked the history of this article and it's clear the website copied it, so I've added a backwardscopy template at the top of this page. Doug Weller talk 14:16, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
Source for three sources not connected
editIs about only one of the people listed in the article, but does suggest abduction.[https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Cold_Case_Chronicles/kxUYEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Clueless+in+New+England:+The+Unsolved+Disappearances+of+Paula+Welden,+Connie+Smith+and+Katherine+Hull.&pg=PA160&printsec=frontcover] Doug Weller talk 16:49, 24 December 2022 (UTC)