Talk:Berlin Tegel Airport
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BA connect will serve Birmingham from Tegel from the end of March this year. (See BA.com)
Tegel to close in 2011?
editAccording to Berlin-Schönefeld International Airport Tegel is scheduled to close in 5 years. Is this true, and if so shouldn't it be mentioned in this article? --03:18, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Destinations
editFlying Carpet Airline discuss here: The NAME of the Airline is Flying Carpet Airlines!
- Flying Carpet Airlines (Beirut [seasonal])
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.247.3.48 (talk) 18:16, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Military Airfield during Cold War?
editWas Berlin-Tegel an Allied military airfield during the early part of the Cold War? Perhaps French?--TGC55 10:28, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
- Found answer - Tegel was a French military airfield - see RAF Gatow section 1, History.--TGC55 18:56, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Comment
editWhen I took a flight from Stockholm-Arlanda Airport to Berlin-Tegel International Airport, the first thing I saw after going through customs was a sex shop. This was even before I had any idea of how to get to the city centre. Fortunately, going outside Terminal E and to the main terminal area solved this problem. JIP | Talk 21:46, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
- Welcome to germany. You´ll also be allowed to carry your booze without brown bags and to drive as fast as you can on the autobahn, since there is no general speed limit. 46.115.107.122 (talk) 02:56, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
History
editHave subsumed and referenced all historical facts about Berlin-Tegel under a new "History" section. Have also corrected factually incorrect information and included additional information about Tegel Airport's development when it was under the control of the Western Allies of World War II during the Cold War era. Pimpom123 15:10, 03 December 2007 (GMT)
Have added some more info about accidents/incidents involving commercial flights that were due to terminate/had originated at TXL as well as the numerous incidents involving LOT's domestic services in Poland, which were taken over by hijackers and forced to make an "unscheduled" visit to TXL. Pimpom123 12:20, 04 December 2007 (GMT)
- Is there someone who can add in the post-reunification history of the airport after it was returned to Germany? We need to add in how the air traffic control changes and etc. --JNZ (talk) 02:37, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- Have added some facts regarding the immediate post-reunification era (1990-1994). Still need to add an additional reference from where I took some of that info. Will do it later today. Pimpom123 13:04, 07 March 2008 (GMT)
- Have now completed adding all relevant references. Pimpom123 17:17, 07 March 2008 (GMT)
When Tegel Closes
editDoes anyone know what will happen to Tegel airport after it transfers all of its commercial service to the new airport? It wasn't mentioned in the article, but would make an interesting addition.(D.c.camero (talk) 05:59, 27 August 2008 (UTC))
- Even the Berlin government doesn't know yet. Even a recent newspaper article from 2008-08-09 doesn't tell anything about it. --Komischn (talk) 11:05, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Cloverleaf terminal
editIn researching the maps for the initially planed expansion of the airport, I couldn't find any evidence of plans for a cloverleaf shaped configuration with four terminal rings as was added to the article without naming a source by an IP last October. It is also very obvious from the maps, that such a configuration could only be built after major reconstruction in the area immediately south of the existing buildings, including the demolition of the power station and the taxiway overpass as well as parts of the air cargo building. It seems extremely unlikely that the plans ever called for such a comprehensive destruction of buildings from earlier expansion phases of the same plans. The historic urban planing maps also show no sign of an expansion of the airport beyond the current boundaries of its grounds. Should such designs ever have existed, it must have been at a very early concept stage… I have rewritten the passage accordingly. --xGCU NervousEnergy 16:04, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
List of Airlines and Destinations
editSince some weeks, the dest. list of Tegel Airport has an additional column for the terminal the flights arrive/depart, rather than having several tables (one for each terminal) as at most other airport articles. I think that this is a loss of information, because there are some airlines that split over several terminals, but according to a certain scheme (e.g. all AB flights to FRA, MUC, CGN et al. in Terminal A, flights to PMI and Scandinavia in Terminal C, SK flights to Stockholm in A, to Copenhagen in D, and so on). If noone objects, I will revert this within the next weeks.
Additionally, it is mentioned that there are check-in counters in Terminal E, but AFAIK, there is only a collecting point for oversize luggage and an exit for arriving passengers: Passengers depart in Terminal D and arrive in Terminal E (so it"s virtually one terminal, as A/B are). Per aspera ad Astra (talk) 09:19, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Filling gaps
editHave now filled in all gaps/rectified factual errors/added relevant new info in the history sections under the main "Cold War era" heading. Can someone please add a few meaningful sentences in orthographically and grammatically correct English under the "1995 onwards" section, the last remaining gap, to make the article complete? A good starting point for what happened during that period was Air Berlin's consolidation at TXL through acquisition of other, second-tier German carrier's operations at the airport (e.g. takeover of DBA and LTU as well as Germania's scheduled ops). There could also be a reference to new carriers commencing service from there, such as Qatar Airways. Relevant references can be found online at flightglobal.com/archives. Pimpom123 16:12, 05 September 2010 (GMT)
Have now filled in the article's last remaining gap under the "1995 onwards" section. Pimpom123 15:48, 09 December 2010 (GMT) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.194.221.231 (talk)
Adding stats and photos relating to Cold War period
editIt would be nice if someone could add passenger stats for key years relating to TXL's Cold War era. Key years are: 1960 (beginning of civil ops as result of AF's move from THF), 1964 (AF being joined by PA's transatlantic ops), 1968 (AF's and PA's TXL ops being joined by all non-sched ops from/to WB), 1971 (the year air transport from/to WB peaked prior to easing of overland travel restrictions through GDR territory), 1974 (the year no of operators at TXL peaked [22]), 1976 (the first full year when all airline ops from/to WB were exclusively conducted via TXL), 1984 (the year PA's and BA's 10-year timetable co-ordination on their internal German flights ended and was not renewed), 1988 (the year the Allied aviation authorites responsible for commercial airline ops from/to WB licensed additional scheduled operators, incl the start of Euroberlin) and 1989 (the first full year of Euroberlin's ops at TXL and the last year WB's air travel market was artificially constrained by the Berlin Wall). These figures should be in the public domain. (I remember TXL handling ca. 6-7K pax each year before PA's and BA's move from THF. Thereafter, TXL's annual pax figures were in the range of 4-5 million until well into the 1980s.) Furthermore, adding a few period photos of contemporary Allied airliners at TXL (parked on the ramp boarding/disembarking pax, both at the original terminal facilities on the airport's north side as well as the current south side complex) would be nice as well. I remember 2 picture postcards that were on sale at TXL in the terminals (both north and south side) for many years during the 1970s and '80s in particular. The 1st of these depicted a Boeing 707 and BAC 1-11 of Caledonian/BUA on the ramp at TXL North. This must have been 1971 as Caledonian/BUA was the interim name of the new airline combine formed in the UK in late-1970, as a result of BUA's takeover by the original, 1960's Caledonian Airways. This name became obsolete in September 1971, when the airline's name changed to British Caledonian. The 2nd showed a Laker BAC 1-11 (G-AVBX, the aircraft involved in the 1969 HAJ incident en route KLU-TXL) and one of Modern's CV-990s in 2 separate inset photos on TXL North's ramp. I imagine this to be dated between 1968 and '74 ('68 was when both Laker and Modern commenced operating from TXL; I think any of the following years up till '74 is possible as well because a) G-AVBX was repaired and returned to service following the HAJ incident, continuing to serve in Laker's fleet until the company's collapse in Feb '82; b) '74 was when Modern left Berlin). These postcards, I believe were printed in the UK. If anyone still has them, they could be scanned. Pimpom123 21:30, 08 September 2010 (GMT)
The New Berlin Brandenburg Airport
editTegel Airport will close in 03 June 2012.
Berlin opens a new airport.
Berlin Brandenburg Airport
Check it out ...;)
Aircraftmac (kontak) 11:19, 29 Augustus 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.231.210.52 (talk)
- Last time i checked Tegel is still open and BBI is a mess. ;-) 46.115.107.122 (talk) 02:59, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
Wrong Logo
editThe logo in use is for Brandenburg Airport, the successor to East Berlin's Schonefeld Airport. Tegel is quite different, a logo with the words 'Tegel' should be used. Mtaylor848 (talk) 17:46, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
- The same public company already owns both airports and intentionally wishes to project a common brand identity... Hobbitschuster (talk) 12:13, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
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