Talk:Berlin Trilogy/GA1

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Reviewer: Tkbrett (talk · contribs) 12:48, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

What a cool page. Excited to tackle this one. Tkbrett (✉) 12:48, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

• At the conclusion of the Isolar tour on 18 May 1976, Bowie and his wife Angela moved to Switzerland, although the two would rarely spend time there. This sentence is teasing us; where were they spending their time?

• It makes more sense on the Low page but not here so removed that.

• Only one instrumental composed for the soundtrack saw the light of day, evolving into "Subterraneans", later properly recorded for Low. "saw the light of day" seems a little encyclopedic to me.

• Reworded

• In the Background section, you refer to "Hansa Studios", piping that link to Hansa Tonstudio. Later on, you refer to "Hansa by the Wall". I take it these two are the same studio? Is there any reason you use different names?

• They actually aren't. According to both Pegg and Seabrook Low and Idiot were mixed at Hansa while LfL and "Heroes" were done at "by the Wall". It definitely confused me at first. Seabrook labels "by the Wall" "Hansa Studio 2" so it was my assumption that they were in the same area, rather one was directly across from the Berlin Wall (hence its name). – zmbro _(talk) 20:22, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

• Hmmm, very confusing. The Hansa Tonstudio page says "Hansa by the Wall" was a former nickname for the studio, citing this 2021 Irish Examiner article. The German Wikipedia also includes these names („Studio by the Wall“ oder „Big Hall by the Wall“) albeit uncited. Perhaps they were just different studios within the same building, similar to how Abbey Road Studios has a Studio One, Two and Three.

• That's my main assumption. – zmbro _(talk) 20:50, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

• ... guitarist Robert Fripp, formerly of the band King Crimson, who was recruited at Eno's suggestion. Bowie recruited him, correct? If so, we can write: ... who Bowie recruited at Eno's suggestion.

• Done

• ... set in pre-Holocaust Berlin. A bit strange, since the Holocaust did not occur in Berlin, but mostly in Poland. I'm not familiar with the film, but perhaps "post-World War I" or "pre-World War II" would perhaps make more sense? Unless the Holocaust somehow features into things.

• I recall the film being described as "pre-Holocaust Berlin" but I can change it to "pre-World War II" – zmbro _(talk) 20:22, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

• Some of its musical textures, particularly on "African Night Flight",[101] have been cited as presaging the popularity of world music. "have been cited": by whom?

• Fixed

• The page is well cited. All the images are PD, except for the album covers, which all instead have an appropriate fair use tag. Copyvio gives a score of 31% (violation unlikely).

Great stuff as always. You really nailed WP:SUMMARY style here. Tkbrett (✉) 19:51, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

Tkbrett Thanks for the kind words! I definitely tried my best :-) – zmbro _(talk) 20:22, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

✓ Pass given the above fixes. I'd appreciate if you could look a little more into the Hansa Tonstudio/Hansa by the Wall issue, since I imagine it would have an impact on several other pages. Anyway, like I said, great work! Tkbrett (✉) 20:48, 2 November 2021 (UTC)