Talk:Bern zinc tablet

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This is interesting. I didn't expect the Greek alphabet to be used for such an inscription. Any more Gaulish inscriptions like this in Greek script? Decius 18:13, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

lots of them, but most of them are found in the area of Marseilles, and date to the 3rd century BC. See Gaulish#Corpus. dab (ᛏ) 18:22, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Ah yes, the Greek colony. Decius 18:23, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Versus proposed "slavic" reading

I think that this section should be deleted:

   ΔΟΒΝΟΡΗΔΟ - Dovno-redo - davno + redo - "Long ago + known"
   ΓΟΒΑΝΟ - Govano - govno - "Feces, shit"
   ΒΡΕΝΟΔΩΡ - Vreno-dowr - vereno + dar - "Summertime + gift, "
   ΝΑΝΤΑΡΩΡ - Nant-aror - nanta + rar - "Nettle + sting"

The words "davno", "dar", "govno" have nothing to do with Gaulish. These are Russian words. I don't know other words proposed, maybe these are from another Slavic language, but they are still not Celtic. Whereas "gobanno" and similar words for "smith" are attested in Irish and Brythonic material, for example, the name of the Irish smith-god Goibniu. The word "nanto" for "valley [of a river]" is attested for Gaulish in the Endlicher's glossary; in modern Breton "nant" is "stream".

Overall, this section seems to origin from the "studies" of some Slavic nationalistic pseudo-scientist, like Valery Chudinov. He is famous by "interpreting" various ancient inscriptions as "ancient Russian", and his ideas are rejected by the scientific community.

Slightly OR but...

I gnow this is somewhat original research here, but does anyone know for sure how firm is the division of the words of the iscription... on the (purely original research) hypothesis that the inscription would have been a spelling inscription (spelling as in magic) one posible way of dividing the text as a string, would be "dobnore do gobano brenodo rnantaror" dobnore is an anagram of brenodo, which to me is significant though of course it could be pure coincidence, after all, it is only a string of seven letters olng. -- Cimon Avaro; on a pogostick. (talk) 01:10, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Bern

Brenodor is probably a placename, Brenno-duro- "town of Brennus, c.f. Salodurum > Solothurn, Vitudurum > Winterthur, Gaulish -duron "town" deriving from PIE dhur- "door".

Is it somehow not obvious that Brenodor is Bern, and that Bern has nothing more to do with bears than Berlin does? David Marjanović (talk) 23:51, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

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