Talk:Berthold of Hanover

Very later-German-historian view

A very Germanic view of events. The pagans defeated Berthold's forces. And Berthold was a bit too eager, don't blame the horse. VЄСRUМВА  ☎  15:42, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, does this come from a Catholic version of history? He defeated the pagan forces but was also stabbed by them in the back, after which "many of them converted"? This is totally at odds with other pages that reference this event. And the city of Riga had existed well before 1186; the area had been well settled since the 2nd century and German traders were visiting the city by the 1150s. I'd try to source this a bit better if I had the time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.248.201.81 (talk) 21:22, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Actually, this article is mostly a retelling of Henry of Livonia's chronicle. One one hand, that is almost the only source we have for that period. On the other hand, the article should, as historians do, show at least some distance and mention the historical debates. - Nicolas B.G.Z. (talk) 19:32, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

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