Talk:Besarion Jughashvili

Latest comment: 5 years ago by KHMELNYTSKYIA in topic Zaza Jughashvili

Photo???

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I am recommending to get off this "photo". Besarion Jughashvili was never photographed. This photo is his son Josef Stalin, but it is retextured, with more bears a darker skin.--62.245.80.143 (talk) 22:26, 15 April 2010 (UTC)Reply

This photo is the same that appears on Besarion's grave marker. Look at the photo of Beso's grave in the article.Kurzon (talk) 15:23, 21 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Vano or Ivanes?

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The article states that Beso's father was called Vano, but Beso's middle name suggests it was actually Ivane. What do the sources say? Kurzon (talk) 16:44, 7 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

GA Review

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Reviewer: Jens Lallensack (talk · contribs) 07:57, 22 December 2018 (UTC)Reply


Reviewing now:

  • Montefiore writes – it would be good to introduce these and other authors with one word, e.g., "Historian Montefiore". Helps the reader.
I have noted who Monntefiore is in the "Family background and early life section" ("...with historian Simon Sebag Montefiore suggesting..."). Would that not be sufficient here?
  • the Georgian custom to partially pay for business with wine – I don't understand this, so not sure if it could be formulated more clearly?
Re-worded, hope that is better.
  • in January, 1900 Ioseb was arrested for the first time, on account of Jughashvili. When Jughashvili left Didi Lilo he was not removed from the village roles, so still owed taxes as a peasant from the region. – so he was arrested because his father owed taxes and a peasant from the region? Would it be possible to add why this was a crime?
Unfortunately there isn't any clarification in any of the sources regarding this, except that he was arrested.
Sorry for the delay, been away for a few days. Addressed things here, let me know what you think. Kaiser matias (talk) 23:04, 24 December 2018 (UTC)Reply
Great, thank you very much. Passing now. --Jens Lallensack (talk) 08:21, 25 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Death

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Here it says that he died of illness. However his granddaughter, Svetlana Alliluyeva, writes in Twenty Letters to a Friend, p. 127, that he died "in a drunken brawl after being stabbed with a knife." — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrThe1And0nly (talkcontribs) 15:02, 13 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

@MrThe1And0nly: Besarion Jughashvili's death in hospital is recorded in the hospital's records. Kurzon (talk) 15:18, 13 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

Zaza Jughashvili

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Birth and death year of Zaza Jughashvili (1798–1847, according to article) are awesome. If he was truly born in 1798, he could not participate in peasant uprisings. He was 6 or 7 years old at that moment.--KHMELNYTSKYIA (talk) 11:46, 7 July 2019 (UTC)Reply