Talk:Bicellariella ciliata

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 02:02, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

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• Bicellariella ciliata
• Crisularia plumosa
• Bugulina flabellata
• Bugulina turbinata

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• ... that Bicellariella ciliata, Crisularia plumosa, Bugulina flabellata and Bugulina turbinata form part of a bryozoan "turf" on steep or vertical rock exposed to moderate water movement?

• Reviewed: Ahmet Cevat Emre. Both of these are two article hooks, making four QPQs in total.
• Comment: Also reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Samuel Street.

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 06:23, 24 July 2021 (UTC).

• The articles were nominated within 7 days of creation, so they are new. All are longer than 1,500 characters (though Bugulina turbinata narrowly so). Citations are abundant and all sources are accessible and confirm the content. I see no NPOV concerns nor can I imagine there being any. QPQ is done. The hook is short enough and supported by an inline citation in each an article, but I am not convinced that it is "interesting to a broad audience". There is, in my opinion, more to the articles than moss-like animals gently swaying in the water, though I cannot find anything captivating that unites all four. Here is a suggestion:
  ALT1: ... that moss animals Crisularia plumosa and Bugulina flabellata, which form a "turf" alongside Bicellariella ciliata and Bugulina turbinata, start lives as males and females, respectively, but later change sex?
  If this hook is acceptable to Cwmhiraeth, it should be reviewed by another editor. If Cwmhiraeth would like to suggest more alternatives, I will gladly review them. The visibility of B. turbinata's yellow embryos sounds nice, for example. Surtsicna (talk) 13:40, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

@Surtsicna: I thought the idea of them forming a lawn-like turf quite interesting, and I created them as a bunch with that idea in mind. How about ALT2? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:14, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

• ALT2 ... that the moss animals Bicellariella ciliata, Crisularia plumosa, Bugulina flabellata and Bugulina turbinata can form part of a bryozoan "turf" covering rocks?

Cwmhiraeth, I figured you wanted them together, but I doubt "turf" alone would be considered particularly riveting by "a broad audience". I do prefer ALT2 to the original because it is clear to the broad audience that the "turf" organisms are animals. (On a possibly related note, I confess to being professionally biased against actual lawns.) If ALT1 is factually correct and we only differ in preferences, I would suggest leaving the choice of hook to a third editor/another reviewer. The articles pass all the requirements with flying colours! Surtsicna (talk) 12:17, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

@Surtsicna: I don't favour ALT1 because the bryozoan is really a colony with both male and female zooids. It is the zooids that change sex, not the whole colony. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:13, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

This is not a review and I haven't checked the articles. The above comments say the nomination passes apart from what constitutes "interesting to a broad audience" - and someone else should choose the ALT. On that basis I approve ALT0. Desertarun (talk) 21:28, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

damn, this is a cool nomination. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 02:02, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

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