Talk:Big Brother (Croatian TV series) season 1

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Requested move 21 June 2018

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Moved as proposed. bd2412 T 17:21, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

• Big Brother 1 (Croatia) → Big Brother (Croatia season 1)
• Big Brother 2 (Croatia) → Big Brother (Croatia season 2)
• Big Brother 3 (Croatia) → Big Brother (Croatia season 3)
• Big Brother 4 (Croatia) → Big Brother (Croatia season 4)
• Big Brother 5 (Croatia) → Big Brother (Croatia season 5)
• Big Brother 6 (Croatia) → Big Brother (Croatia season 6)
• Big Brother 7 (Croatia) → Big Brother (Croatia season 7)

– I could not find sources to support that each season was individually numbered by the broadcaster or the production company for this edition. In an effort to align the naming convention guidelines of WP:BIGBRO with the established guidelines of WP:NCTV I'm proposing we move the individual season articles to the names suggested. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 19:51, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

• Support, as per nom. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 04:07, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
• Support as long as the title really is Big Brother and not Big Brother Croatia (or something in Croatian, with most English-language sources using that). This "Big Brother x (Country_name_here)" stuff is just aberrant. We don't do that with any articles titles about anything, meanwhile we have a stable and site-wide TV convention of "Title_here (season X)", from which there is no reason to diverge in this case.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  06:16, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
• Support per WP:NCTV. Gonnym (talk) 13:47, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
  • After being informed on a different move of not using the correct adjective, I've noticed we didn't use the correct one here either. This should be changed to Big Brother 1 (Croatian season 1) etc (as used in the series one - Big Brother (Croatian TV series)). --Gonnym (talk) 14:02, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
    • Yes, THIS. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 14:51, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

• Neutral, but CREATE REDIRECTS no matter what happens. Paintspot Infez (talk) 18:22, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

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Requested move 3 July 2018

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The result of the move request was: Moved. Obvious consensus for this one. Anarchyte (work | talk) 10:17, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

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• Big Brother (Croatia season 1) → Big Brother (Croatian season 1)
• Big Brother (Croatia season 2) → Big Brother (Croatian season 2)
• Big Brother (Croatia season 3) → Big Brother (Croatian season 3)
• Big Brother (Croatia season 4) → Big Brother (Croatian season 4)
• Big Brother (Croatia season 5) → Big Brother (Croatian season 5)
• Big Brother (Croatia season 6) → Big Brother (Croatian season 6)
• Big Brother (Croatia season 7) → Big Brother (Croatian season 7)

– The previous move was not completed with the correct WP:NCTV naming convention. NCTV says to Prefix the country of broadcast ( adjective), which in this case would be Croatian instead of Croatia (which is similar to Big Brother (Croatian TV series)). Gonnym (talk) 20:57, 3 July 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Andrewa (talk) 02:54, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

• Support and speedy close. I don't even think a formal RM is even required in this case – the proper naming convention is the national adjective, not the national proper noun, so "Croatian" is correct. Again, I'd simply speedy close this if I were another Page mover coming across this RM. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 19:32, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
• Support - this is covered under WP:TVSEASON which shows that we use the same adjectival method for season article disambiguation as used for their main series article. --Netoholic @ 17:34, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
• Support as nominator. Noticed I forgot. --Gonnym (talk) 22:48, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
• Relisting comment: Discuss at Talk:Big Brother (Australia season 1)#Discussion. Andrewa (talk) 02:54, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose? - I'm honestly not sure this is a quick and easy move. As mentioned by User:IJBall in the Australia discussion, "there are numerous current examples of "Australia season [x]" in use – e.g. The Voice (Australia season 7), The Bachelor (Australia season 2), etc. So this probably requires a wider discussion on the question." Paintspot Infez (talk) 18:09, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

  @Paintspot: No, it's easy here – AFAICT, there are no other articles that are disambiguated with "(Croatia season x)". Thus, we default to WP:NCTV on the subject, and use the adjective – such as with Idol (Croatian TV series), etc. – and use Big Brother (Croatian season 1). This only because a more complicated situation, as in the Australian case, in which there are a bunch of articles currently not following the WP:NCTV formatting – in those cases, we probably need a "mass" move of a bunch of articles to the correct disambiguation, and I'd rather see that happen in those cases. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 18:18, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

  The fact that some titles don't yet comply with the guideline is not a rationale to make fewer of them comply with the guideline.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  21:59, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

• Support per WP:TVSEASON and WP:CONSISTENCY, even if we need to do more consistency work with regard to old articles like The Bachelor (Australia season 2), etc. WP:There is no deadline.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  21:59, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

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