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Big Brother 11 (American season) has been listed as one of the Media and drama good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.

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August 25, 2010	Good article nominee	Listed

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General MoS table for reference

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References	Sourcing of all information pertaining to the show. This is not to say that all sentences must be followed by a <ref> tag, but on statements of House events, it is requested that sources be applied. Facts about housemates must also be referenced or they will be deleted. Do not space between punctuation and reference tag and make sure tag goes after punctuation.	Inadequate souring in chronology and housemate sections. Not referencing housemate information can even be a source of libel. 2/3 of the sources are from the official Big Brother website.
HouseGuests	A well written but not very long section for each HouseGuest, containing referenced birth dates, pre- and post-Big Brother life, entrance and eviction dates, and actions within the house. If the article goes over 55-60kB with the HouseGuests section being the majority, it should be split. If the section is split then a table with the names, hometowns, age should be added. (See Big Brother 11 (U.S.)#HouseGuests as an example)	Too long without being split or too short.
Eviction table	The eviction (bottom) row should read '''X'''<br>5 of 6 votes<br><small>to evict</small>. This is the international standard.	Incorrect color coding, twist syntax, or having the entire evicted [Evicted (Day 14)] row italicized. Only "Evicted" should be italicized. Commas within lists of Have-Have Not housemates. See Big Brother 10 (U.S.)#Voting history and Big Brother 11 (U.S.)#Voting history as good examples.
Summary	Short, referenced, concise. The summary reads like a short selection of extremely major events: HoH, evicted, PoV, nominated, et. No minor or useless house events or strategic information. This section should be written in prose instead of a table like Big Brother 11 (U.S.).	Anything similar to Big Brother 8 (U.S.)'s chronology.
House	A picture (fair-use rational acceptable) should be used just to illustrate the house. A relatively cited description of major changes in décor or layout.	No section or one that is confusing and poorly cited.
Lexicon	HouseGuest House (capitalised) Day 25 (capitalised and cardinal, not ordinal, number) HoH, Head of Household PoV, Power of Veto 5 of 6 votes to evict	HG, houseguest, Houseguest house day 25 HOH, hoh POV, pov, veto (except when used as a verb) 5 to evict

Eviction Table/Voting History Color Guide
Head of Household	Nominated	Evicted	Not Eligible	Exempt	Expelled	Walked	Jury Member	Power Couple Coup d'État' or similar twist
Head of Household	Nominated	Re-evicted	No Nominations	Exempt	Expelled	Walked	Jury Member	Power Couple Coup d'État' or similar twist
#CCFFCC	#959FFD	#FA8072	#CCCCCC	#FBF373	#FFE08B	#FFCCFF	#CCCCFF	#C3B091
To use place `style="background:[COLOR];"\|` in the square needed. Replace [COLOR] with one listed above. Exempt needs to be used only when another HouseGuest other than the Head of Household has been awarded immunity from eviction for that week. See Big Brother 11's voting table.

Major revamping/construction

Latest comment: 12 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Over the next several days I am editing the article in a similar style of Big Brother 2009 (UK) which is a GA article in hopes of making this article a GA article while keeping the specific US style. This will include an expanded lead in, some sections being merged together, reducing non important information and adding sources. If anyone would like to help please feel free to do so. It would be nice to make this article a GA article. If there are any problems please discuss them here instead of starting an edit war. ♪♫Al ucard 16♫♪ 18:18, 26 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

BB11 did not start on July 9. The day the game started is not the same as the date the first episode airs. 70.72.83.190 (talk) 21:55, 5 July 2012 (UTC)Reply

Adding back the ratings table

Latest comment: 14 years ago2 comments1 person in discussion

I know that a consensus was reached to convert the ratings table to prose and because the previous ratings tables wasn't cited. I was thinking about adding back the table after the reviewer for Big Brother 2009 (UK) suggested they do the same. Now since the USA airs only a fraction of the episodes other versions around the world I think this could work for the USA articles. In my sandbox I have a table-in-progress for my own personal use which if a new consensus is reached can be used in the main article. I am putting all key data there for easy reference to expand the ratings section but I would like to include it. The idea for the Ratings section would have prose above the table summarizing the ratings section with the table showing the all the ratings. This kind of table is used in other articles and would be good here. The great thing about this table is it has sources! ♪♫Al ucard 16♫♪ 18:18, 28 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

I was WP:BOLD and added the table back with multiple sources. I will finish summarizing the lead later unless someone else would like to do it. ♪♫Al ucard 16♫♪ 04:52, 6 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

Some suggestions from KingOfTheMedia

Latest comment: 14 years ago7 comments2 people in discussion

User:Alucard 16 asked me to make some comments, so here goes:

"For the first three weeks, Big Brother divided the HouseGuests into four cliques; Athletes, Populars, Brains and the Off-beats" - I don't believe that the four clique names should be coloured here as it is possibly against WP:COLOR and WP:MOS. I suggest introducing a key like this one.

Done Thanks for this, for now I removed the lead and put Further Information leading to the format section. ♪♫Al ucard 16♫♪ 19:22, 9 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

"After a HouseGuest was evicted, they were subject to an interview with Julie Chen." Possibly add "(left)" on the end.

Done ♪♫Al ucard 16♫♪ 19:22, 9 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

Don't bold the "third week" etc. This is against WP:MOSBOLD.

Working on that; I am currently in the process expanding the Summary section with brief summaries of the competitions. As I go along and correct each week I have been removing the bold weeks trying to make it look like Big Brother 2009 (UK). ♪♫Al ucard 16♫♪ 19:22, 9 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

Only use the first/last/author parameters of the cite news/web reference templates for names. "CBS (2009-07-10). "'Big Brother 11' Tops Last Summer's Premiere in Viewers, Adults 18-49 and Adults 18-34". Press release. Retrieved 2010-05-29.", for example, should have CBS as the publisher.

That particular reference is using the Template:Cite press release and CBS is the publisher. ♪♫Al ucard 16♫♪ 19:22, 9 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

Some of the formatting of the references needs to be brushed up.

On my to-do list after I create a lead/summarize the ratings section. ♪♫Al ucard 16♫♪ 19:22, 9 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

KingOfTheMedia (talk) 13:45, 9 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

Thanks so much for the comments :) ♪♫Al ucard 16♫♪ 19:22, 9 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

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Title card

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Why was the title card deleted. I believe its use significantly benefits the article as a means on identification for the fans. Discuss before deletion. (Aricmfergie (talk) 02:33, 25 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

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