Talk:Big Four (White Star Line)

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Building?

Does anyone know about their building? Where were they built - was it on the four Northern slipways (1...4) of H&W's Queen's Island site? Were they built simultaneously? Thanks Andy Dingley (talk) 15:23, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

Page move

This page was moved without discussion in January 2019 to 'Big Four-class liners'; the edit summary was "Sources indicate this was an actual class on its own, so let's refer to it as such per naming conventions".
In fact there are no sources that I can find for the term 'Big Four-class'; AFAIK merchant ships weren’t generally described in classes, in the way warships are. While these ships may well have been called the 'Big Four', that only justifies the title 'Big Four liners', or 'Big Four (White Star Line)' which was the previous article name. For comparison, the Queen Mary and Queen Elizabeth are commonly called 'the Queens', that doesn’t make them 'Queen-class liners'. So I have reverted the move; if anyone feels the original title is wrong, I suggest opening a request move discussion, and producing some evidence for the change. Xyl 54 (talk) 20:53, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

The Big Four were generally regarded as what today be regarded as a class, 4 more or less identical ships built in quick succession. Similarly White Star had the Olympic class. I know of no other group of ships of that era known as the Big Four so the disambiguation is unnecessary. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 07:38, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

@Murgatroyd49: Thank you for replying. To take your second point, the disambiguator was there in the title I reverted to; but it is hardly un-necessary, as there are a number of Big Four’s out there. Did you want to change it? As for the class thing, I understand the logic, but there are precious few sources to support its use. The big Cunarders (Lusitania, Mauretania, Aquitania) would constitute a class, but no-one ever referred to them as such. It seems more of a wikipaedia thing than something in the real world. How far back does the term 'Olympic class' go? Xyl 54 (talk) 22:49, 13 August 2021 (UTC)