Talk:Bikram Choudhury/GA2

GA Review

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Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 10:44, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I will use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)}

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

Immediate Failures

• It is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria -
• It contains copyright infringements -
• It has, or needs, cleanup banners that are unquestionably still valid. These include{{cleanup}}, {{POV}}, {{unreferenced}} or large numbers of {{citation needed}}, {{clarify}}, or similar tags. (See also {{QF-tags}}). -
• It is not stable due to edit warring on the page. -

Links

• Are scribd.com, and Jezebel.com reliable sources? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:49, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

The scribd is just a photocopy of a court statement so it has court authority.

Jezebel too is just reporting on the issuing of the warrant, again not in doubt.

I really don't know much about court records, but could we not link to the documents, rather than a third party site? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:13, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

I don't either. There doesn't seem to be much of a system for publishing the court documents in searchable form. The national newspapers give the year of birth so using and citing that. Removed the Jezebel source, the claim is at best tangential to the article.

Prose

Lede

• Indian-born-American - I'm not an expert... should this be hyphenated? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:55, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Removed.

• across the Western world, - I don't really like calling it the "western world". Is there specific locations we can mention instead? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:55, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

He travelled to numerous Western countries.

• Choudhury is the subject of civil suits - is this still outstanding? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:55, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

You're right, it's "was", as the next sentence makes clear.

• Is there nothing about his copyright claims that could be included in the lede? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:55, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Good point. Added.

General

• I notice you cite his birth in the infobox. Could we do this in the prose instead? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:07, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Text and infobox now matched.

• I think his erroneous claims in early life need to be explicitly cited. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:07, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Done.

• There's a few too many subsections. Perhaps we could merge some of these. For example, we don't need a subsection and a further info for Copyright claims on Bikram Yoga, which could be in prose. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:07, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Done.

• I know you link it in the lede, but could we link hot yoga on first usage in prose? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:07, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Good point. Done.

• as if he were a guru, though he was a "braggart"[7] openly - ref can go at the end of the sentence. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:07, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Done.

• Partnership should probably be a seperate section on personal life. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:07, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Done.

• 6.5 million dollar -> $6.5 million Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:07, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Done.

• India where he began opening yoga studios - feels like an Easter egg to use that link here. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:07, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Fixed.

GA Review

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Comments

• Automated note - If you fancy returning the favour, I have outstanding GA nominations that require reviewing at WP:GAN. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these, however it's definitely not mandatory. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)}
  • Not much here to judge. WP:NPOV could be a slight issue, the article clearly labels an antagonist, but so does secondary sources, so I don't have a massive issue with it. I'll put on hold, please let me know about the reliability of the refs. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:09, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Many thanks. The facts of his life have been stated as shown in major newspapers in America and Europe; almost any fact could be given a string of reliable sources if needed, so I'm confident the article is reliable. Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:13, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Painless. Passing. Well done. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:17, 29 April 2020 (UTC)