Talk:Bill Tilghman

Sourcing

The cites here are a bit disappointing; I don't consider websites which provide no references to be very credible, and I hope someone here has access to something better. I think some overwriting by Wiki editors has also been taking place. For example, this page claimed that Crockett Long and the bystander were shot by Wiley Lynn, which may be true, but the link attached to that statement to support it said no such thing. It just said the two guys were killed; the bystander could have been shot by Long, or someone else entirely. This page also claimed that lawman Chris Madsen was alleged to have committed arson on some flophouses in Cromwell. I deleted it because that's a hell of an accusation, and as far as I can tell, the only guy who alleged it was the man who wrote the material on the website -- a guy who cites no references and who lives 75 years after the fact. The old page on Wikipedia had also mischaracterized the website's allegation. Somehow, the fire being set by "one" guy, "most likely a Tilghman lawman friend like Madsen or Long" (my emphasis) got converted by one of our editors into a crowd of "angry citizens" (lawman friends, it suggests) "led" by Chris Madsen. 71.129.81.136 21:50, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

How fictional?

I saw You Know My Name last night, and had to wonder at this article's assertion "The film was a highly fictionalized account of Tilghman's final months and death."

As an unproduced screenwriter, I'm well-aware that scripts based on historical events often include scenes or dialog fabricated for continuity or exposition. These are rarely objected to, if the surrounding material is accurate. But the movie's depiction of what happened in Cromwell seems essentially identical to what's given in this article. So in what way(s) is the film "highly fictionalized"? WilliamSommerwerck (talk) 16:53, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

Film and television portrayals

Never mind. Should have googled before I wrote that. :blush: CryMeAnOcean (talk) 08:08, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

left on WT:V

The reference contains this line: "Tilghman never received the reward money for Doolin's capture, which the state of Oklahoma refused to pay after Doolin escaped."

Issue: Oklahoma became a state in 1907. Unsure which jurisdiction would offer a reward for the capture of Bill Doolin.

Capture of Bill Doolin "The high point of Tilghman's career came on January 15, 1896, when he single-handedly captured Bill Doolin, the putative leader of the Wild Bunch."

Doolin escape months later. However, Oklahoma would not become a state for 10 more years. The only organized government for the Indian Territory would be the federal government or Indian Nations and Tilghman was a deputy US Marshall and answerable to the US Government. He would not be getting a reward for doing his job. Frither (talk) 10:07, 12 October 2019 (UTC)