Talk:Bill Young (Florida politician)
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On 31 December 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Bill Young to Bill Young (Florida politician). The result of the discussion was moved. |
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editIs there a NPOV way to say something along the lines of she was not arrested, however, like fellow t-shirt wearing protestor Cindy Sheehan? Youngamerican 21:37, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Is Young a "Republican in Name Only"? It seems unlikely that a staunch Republican's wife would invite Cindy Sheehan to the State of the Union address.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.46.199.232 (talk) 18:58, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
suggestions for elaboration
editthis may be a tall order, but as a canadian relatively (ha!) divorced from u.s. politics, 'wearing a t-shirt which read "Support the Troops Defending Our Freedom"' does not explain to me why she was ejected. such a statement could be construed as for or against the occupation of iraq. as someone who genuinely does not understand this specific contraversy, i ask: to what extent was this a major news story in american media and how was this incident perceived? was it deemed as as supporting the occupation (as in the shirt meant don't protest the war) or as in, respect the men and women involved but give them better conditions, etc. was she deemed as an ally or opponent of sheehan? this may seem obvious to americans familiar with this story, but i really am genuinely seeking clarificatioin on the connotations of the article. i realize NPOV may be hard to keep, but i know there are wiki-writers capable of it. for those genuinely unfamiliar with bill young (and his wife) such as i, such clarification would be helpful. Wencer 07:44, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
proposed deletions
editI would like to boldly remove this section. The article is about Congresman Young, not a news account about his wife. The speculative and politcally charged section on the upcoming election needs to go as well. COmmets, yea or nay?User:Mikereichold | User_talk:Mikereichold 02:25, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- I removed the following text:
- An admittedly partisan analyst considers Young's district to be winnable by a Democrat:
This district went heavily for Republican Bill Young in 2004, but in 2000, Gore got a plurality of the votes in this district with 49.0%. I have also heard (though I have not seen the numbers), that John Kerry won this district as well. A Republican district that went to a Democratic candidate for president is more often challenged successfully. Also, this district is number 9 in the state for [Social Security] beneficiaries (number 8 for retiree beneficiaries). If [Young] retires [then] Democrats have a really good chance. Otherwise, they still have a decent one. [1]
- A tally of votes in the 2004 election in fact found that John Kerry got about 49% of the vote in the 10th district, losing to George W. Bush by only 2.4%.[2]. By contrast, Young won overwhelmingly, 69% to 31%. [3]
- I think the rest of that section, on the election, is relevant. It certainly is short enough.
- As for the rest of your proposal (and I really appreciate your bringing it to the talk/discussion page), I am opposed. (I think you're proposing to delete the "2006 State of the Union address" section; if not, please ignore this and explain a bit what you are suggesting.) Half of the section is in fact about Bill Young (his reaction). More importantly, the story was front-page news, nationwide. Finally, if this were a long article on Bill Young, there might be more of a case for deleting this (though I'd still be opposed), but the article in fact is NOT that long, yet. John Broughton 13:45, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Balance
editI put in the usual structure, but it's still a remarkably poor article, imo. Instead of focusing on the person and his career, it focuses on his electoral history, a string of controversies, and two (2) issue positions. I suppose t-shirts are a big thing in Florida, but still...doesn't he ever actually DO something in Congress? Flatterworld (talk) 02:35, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Sembler
editI removed the section noting that Young had sponsored legislation naming a diplomatic building after Mel Sembler. The sourced Washington Post article doesn't mention the issue that the wikipedia article implies is important - that Sembler's drug abuse rehab center was accused of abuse. Instead it criticizes the decision to name the building after Sembler as narcissism. Adding in material about Sembler's business seems to be OR and POV given that he is best known as an ambassador to Australia and Italy and a major Republican fundraiser. If we take it out, we're just left with the statement that Young had a building named after a friend, which some people thought was unusual. That really doesn't seem encyclopedic. GabrielF (talk) 23:51, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
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Requested move 31 December 2022
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) The Night Watch (talk) 05:43, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
Bill Young → Bill Young (Florida politician) – no clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per page views [4] Joeykai (talk) 04:35, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
- Support per nom; any "William Young" might be called "Bill". BD2412 T 05:17, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
- Support. I count 47% of pageviews for all "Bill Young" pages the last 90 days. Nohomersryan (talk) 18:58, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
- Support per BD2412 and Nohomersryan. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 07:22, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support, and redirect "Bill Young" to William Young DAB.--Ortizesp (talk) 23:31, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:38, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support though most viewed person with this title some similar titles get more which as noted could be called "Bill". Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:59, 5 January 2023 (UTC)