Talk:Billie Eilish/Archive 1

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Unsourced death

If you want to list her as deceased, we will need evidence of this. News of a fatal car crash that does not specify her by name will not suffice. —Guanaco 19:40, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

It still is not sufficient today. --AntiCompositeNumber (Leave a message) 22:34, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

Billie has been putting out new music and is set to release a new music video July 11th. She has been spotted numerous times in public and performed very recently. She is often active on her social media. She is very much alive Izzymendoza 714 (talk) 20:52, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 June 2018

billie eolith real name is William Billieeilish1111q1 (talk) 18:37, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:59, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

actually its “billiam” 2601:642:4300:21E7:640A:C192:A382:D099 (talk) 16:56, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Per what reliable source? —C.Fred (talk) 17:46, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 July 2018

bitches broken hearts is a non-album single and was released Nov 15, 2017 on soundcloud before it was released on all platforms. Please change bitches broken hearts from being a TBA album to a non-album single. Billie stats in an interview that her first name is indeed William after her grandfather. Please change Billie's name to William. Heres the link to the interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr8T7akYK2s skip to 4:57 to hear her say it herself. Stormiosis (talk) 07:01, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. LivinRealGüd (talk) 03:03, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Age

Age she is 17 now or he or whatever — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.11.248.200 (talk) 10:50, 2 August 2018‎ (UTC)

She won't turn 17 for another four months. —C.Fred (talk) 17:47, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

YOU SHOULD SEE ME INNA CROWN ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.17.134.57 (talk) 21:30, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 October 2018,m jhvuplfbygv fhcbjuyiykutfcnvim

208.184.165.147 (talk) 19:54, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Citizen Canine (talk) 19:59, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Fix incorrect word

In October 2015, Billie recorded the song "Ocean Eyes", initially written by Finneas for his band, and sent it to her dance teacher who hoped to choreograph a dance to it.[10][11]

change incorrect word hoped to helped Randonwikiname (talk) 00:07, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

 Done  Spintendo  01:52, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

There us is type. "...in August of this year" should be "...in August of last year..." Ec.amezcua (talk) 08:03, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 November 2018

Change Associated Acts to add Khalid to the list. He and Eilish have a song together called "Lovely." 23.241.165.39 (talk) 22:54, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: A single collaboration is not enough. —C.Fred (talk) 23:09, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 December 2018

please let me edit this, im a hug billie fan. So many wrong things in this! Youmesee (talk) 01:01, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

@Youmesee: Such as? We can only make changes if you suggest a specific change and provide reliable sources to support the change. —C.Fred (talk) 01:11, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

why she is the best

she really tries her best to be there for her fans which she calls family because if it weren't for them she wouldn't be where she is today . I personally love her as a singer and a person in general she is a great role model and even though some parents don't approve of her gloomy lyrics I love them . if they actually knew what the meaning was behind them then they would love them to . take her new song "Wish you were gay" aka "wywg" a lot of people are getting offended by this song by only reading the title ,if they listened to this song in more depth they would know and also if they did their research because this song actually isn't "new" it was writing 3 years ago about a boy who billie was madly in love with but he didn't feel the same way and she just wishes he was gay so that he would have a real reason not to love her back instead of just "not being his type" I feel that if everyone knew who they were hating on they would feel bad so please stop making remarks you don't even know are true or if you don't know the whole story . thank you Ilovebillie (talk) 22:51, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Request for edit, March 3rd, 2019

In the last line of the opening paragraph, she is credited as having a platinum album through the RIAA. This is not true, verifiable through the RIAA's website. Please change "Through the RIAA, Eilish has seven gold and two platinum singles, along with one platinum album." to "Through the RIAA, Eilish has seven gold and two platinum singles.".

She does have an EP which sold at the level of RIAA-certified platinum albums (see EOS comparison), but the RIAA doesn't give Silver/Gold/Plat Album certifications to EP's even if they are of album length, so calling her a "RIAA Platinum album selling artist" is incorrect. Evan Pierce (talk) 23:53, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

 Done QueerFilmNerd^talk 17:03, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 May 2019

Change age from 17 to 18 in bio under picture. Bad math. Salamencite (talk) 05:13, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: No? She's 17... and the math is fine Saucy^{[talk – contribs]} 06:02, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 May 2019

Under one of the photos of Billie Eilish it's written "Eilish at a MTV Interview in 2019". It sohuld change to "Eilish at an MTV Interview in 2019" Bijanwiki (talk) 00:29, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

 Done I also reduced "interview" to lowercase, since it's a common noun. —C.Fred (talk) 00:53, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 June 2019

There is a small capitalization error in Artistry section. The Beatles band name is not capitalized. OrlandoMills (talk) 01:43, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: per The Beatles, which uses "the Beatles" throughout. NiciVampireHeart 20:36, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Lovely

i think that lovely should get its own article because of all it charts and since its her first song to chart on billboard in the US. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.115.194.66 (talk) 16:46, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 September 2019

American “singer” who specializes in making really bad music. Hi please can you remove the lines thanks Blackjack8 (talk) 17:06, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

 Done Vandalism removed and user warned. @Blackjack8: Thank you for bringing this to our attention. —C.Fred (talk) 17:28, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 September 2019

just to edit in case and keep it up to date Daytfuci25 (talk) 16:47, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. NiciVampireHeart 16:53, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

'Stylized as'

Almost every song title in this article is referenced with a "corrected" presentation and Stylized as note with the actual title. What is the reasoning for this? I understand Wikipedia has certain guidelines for this, but don't those generally apply only to article titles? Even there I think they would only demand capitalizing the first letter in a title of a work. I don't see any references to "I Would Die For You (Stylized as "I Would Die 4 U")" on the Purple Rain article, for a counter-example. Walkersam (talk) 18:08, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

I agree. It's not needed. I'll fix it. Melodies1917 (talk) 21:52, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Billie Eilish Pirate Dinosaur Baird O'Connell

Why isn’t her name correct on this page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.218.229.68 (talk) 03:09, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 April 2019

In 2019, she became a headliner for Coachella. 108.7.218.217 (talk) 20:11, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Saucy^{[talk – contribs]} 06:09, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Sort key

Resolved

I took a look at the Billboard and BBC articles cited as reference, and they use "Eilish" on second mention of her. That tells me that functionally, in her stage name "Billie Eilish", Eilish is her last name—and she should be sorted in categories under E, not B. —C.Fred (talk) 16:34, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

C.Fred, The default sort template looks fine to me. Is there a problem with the sorting anywhere? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:33, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

@Another Believer: There was opposition to that key, but that user has discussed it with me at my user talk and is now on board. —C.Fred (talk) 19:37, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

C.Fred, Great, I'll mark this as resolved. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:54, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 October 2019

Slay Queen Ethannn.Y (talk) 17:42, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Melmann 17:50, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 January 2019

Someone please apply these corrections: In the bio it says that "Ocean eyes" has 132 mln streams on Spotify (it currently has 191 mln streams). The peaks of dont smile at me aren't updated (US alternative's peak is 2 and Canada Albums's 15). In the section Other charted songs, it says that "Copycat", "Idontwannabeyouanymore", "My Boy" and "Watch" were released in 2018, but they were all out in 2017. 2A02:A31A:E03C:C480:DD62:DBD4:76FC:2047 (talk) 21:40, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. SITH (talk) 21:08, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 October 2019

Billie Eilish has a cousin named Emilie Appell. She is distant yet a cousin. Yarjacobpullinyomom (talk) 18:49, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

 Not done Adding this information, even if you did provide a reliable source for it, does not enhance the reader's understanding of the subject, its just useless trivia. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:28, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 January 2020

Beginning of third paragraph

Eilish has eight gold and four platinum singles in the US.[4]

This is well out of date. As of Jan 20, 2020 she has 13 platinum and 4 gold single as well as a platinum EP and a Double Platinum Album according to the RIAA link shown. 2001:558:6040:37:E49A:9E9B:2698:706F (talk) 20:52, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

 Done Figures are supported by the source. —C.Fred (talk) 21:28, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 January 2020

She is a friend of Justin Bieber in her song bad guys 2600:1000:B07B:8FBD:9F2:8470:D466:CBDC (talk) 17:35, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 18:32, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Photo?

The photo on the sidebar is extremely uncomplimentary. Isn't there anything better?

200.68.142.15 (talk) 04:32, 7 December 2019 (UTC) baden k.

commons:Category:Billie Eilish ---Another Believer _(Talk) 20:13, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 January 2020

Correction of typo request. Change the 'and' (in the second sentence of paragraph 2 under 'career' section) to 'an'.

A music video for "Ocean Eyes" was released in March 2016. By August 2016, Eilish had signed to the record label and artist management company The Darkroom, and imprint of Interscope Records. Pr6srm (talk) 19:53, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

 Done Fixed :) LanHikari64 (talk) 20:07, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Family

Timothy O’Connell is brothers with Finneas O’Connell, Billie’s father, and Billies 2 cousins are Bridget O’Connell, age 15, and Christopher O’Connell, age 11. Bridgetoconnell (talk) 23:45, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Unless the cousins are notable people, there's no point to mention them. Even then, the relationship would need to be traced to published reliable sources. —C.Fred (talk) 00:20, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Finneas O’Connell is Billies brother not dad...I might’ve read what you typed incorrectly, but I still wanted to mention that just in case. Help Editor Wiki (talk) 21:29, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Billies father is not Finneas O’Connell it is Patrick O’Connell Owlylola (talk) 09:34, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protect edit request: pronunciation

The second syllable of her "last name" is not a long e sound, it's a short i sound. IPA symbol is ɪ. We ought correct "EYE leesh" (/ˈaɪliʃ/) to "EYE lish" (/ˈaɪlɪʃ/). —208.185.173.211 (talk) 23:16, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Allegations of being an "Industry Plant"

Recently, there have been some claims on various corners of the 'net claiming that Billie Eilish is, in fact, an 'industry plant' (i.e. system was rigged in their favour). Would this be best discussed in a new section, separate page, or...?

Thanks. Zer0thenumber (talk) 03:07, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your question. But first of all, per WP:BLP, which applies to all of the Wikipedia, even on a talk page you can't make (or even just describe, as you are here) allegations against a person without providing a ref. I'v provided one, otherwise I would have had to scrub your comment. It's OK, a lot of people don't realize this about WP:BLP

(Here's a ref, it's the Chicago Reader which, enh... it says "I've seen the term used against [person], Billie Eilish, [person], [person], and [person]. ... 'I think that a lot of people understand that the term doesn't really hold much weight.'"

on the merits, no, I wouldn't include it. Sounds like it's just gossip. Even including it descriptively ("Some people say...") gives it too much credence and kind of spreads the rumor, or at least the existance of the rumor, which casts a shadow on Eilish I suppose... per WP:BLP we only want to do that when we really have to. Herostratus (talk) 14:30, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

She should be deleted as not notable as all her sources are written to promote her when she has no true fans or notability. But PR companies have extended confirmed Wikipedia accounts would vote keep in any AFD. 95.158.62.112 (talk) 19:46, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Irish nationality

She is third-generation Irish, I couldn't really give a shit anyway I just want to promote my country where possible as I'm a 32-county patriot. An aimsir na hnEireann. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lottolads (talk • contribs) 01:15, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Um, it’s unclear what changes you want made. And make sure to provide a reliable source to support it as well.—NØ 19:48, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

"Third generation Irish" is hardly Irish, is it? Sounds like umpteenth generation US-ian clutching at heritage credibility straws. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.175.56.22 (talk) 00:47, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

First artist with a Numer 1 album born after 2000

This source doesn't make clear that this applies only to the American Billboard chart. For example, Marcus & Martinus (born 2002) have had multiple no1 albums in Norway and Sweden since 2015. I have corrected the line in the article, but is there are more accurate source available? — Preceding unsigned comment added by M.T.S.W.A. (talk • contribs) 18:28, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Unnecessary content

Some of the content contained within the page seems unnecessary to include. Which kinds of music she listens to and the artists that she wants to collaborate are both too personal and too subject to change; the way her brother writes music for her should either be moved to his page, as it isn't really about her, or removed; and the quote about her style doesn't really add anything to the article and almost reads as promotional. Benmite (talk) 15:57, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Lapadite77, discussion here would be good. Benmite (talk) 16:24, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Lapadite77, if you could comment on this here on the talk page, that would be good. Benmite (talk) 00:32, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

I did not see this discussion before. Benmite, how she and her long-term, close collaborator write songs is very relevant. As noted in their interviews, she and her brother collaborate on everything. Eilish has spoken about his involvement in her music and how they write songs, as he has also done. The commentary from both is relevant. The music that inspires her is also relevant to her article; she has talked about being a big fan of rap/hip hop music and Tyler, the Creator influencing her. Lastly, her image/style is discussed in media and her own commentary on it is relevant, especially as it is related to her commentary from her Calvin Klein ad. Lapadite (talk) 02:07, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for replying. While I agree that much of what you listed could be considered relevant information as of right now, my main concern is that it is either subject to change or that its wording or placement feels off. For example, what kind of music she listens to doesn't seem quite as essential as what music inspires or has inspired her, and from the articles cited, it seems like the artists you listed are all inspirations for her to some extent. People's music tastes also change rather quickly, especially in the age of streaming, but an artist's musical and stylistic inspirations shape the foundations of who they are as an artist. In that case, I don't think it's entirely unnecessary to include that Eilish takes inspiration from hip-hop and R&B music and uses elements of it in her fashion and music, but it should be stated as such instead of merely saying that she listens to those people, if that makes sense. Furthermore, although I agree that Eilish's own commentary on her style is relevant, I think the article as is encompasses what she's said thus far about her style quite well. I think shorter quotes about her style are good, but I think a longer quote which basically says what's already been said might come off as redundant. Benmite (talk) 17:13, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Ok, I'll incorporate these changes. Lapadite (talk) 15:22, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Ukulele?

For a while, the infobox listed the ukulele as an instrument Billie plays. This information has since been removed despite the fact that this photo (which is included in the article) clearly shows her playing an ukulele. Can the ukulele be put back into the list on the strength of this image alone, or do we need a reliable source?--Vaporgaze (talk) 09:04, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

The instruments section usually refers to instruments that are routinely used by an artist, so a more reliable source than the single image would probably be needed. However, the ukulele is an instrument she's played on enough occasions that I assume it wouldn't be hard to find sources to back it up.Benmite (talk) 14:51, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the information. I would happily add the ukulele to the list, but I can't find any sources.--Vaporgaze (talk) 17:47, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Vaporgaze and Benmite, I also tried to find any sources that would list ukulele as one of her primary instruments. Would any of the following sources be appropriate?

• i-D ("Back home, Billie practises her old ukulele, hangs with her dog Pepper and plays the song back to her mom.")
• The Nation ("Both her major recording projects have a DIY quality, with just a few instruments—mainly piano, guitar, ukulele, and synth—")
• Rolling Stone ("As for Eilish, she wrote her first song on the ukulele at four,")
• HappyMag ("7 tracks that owe their success to the humble ukulele")

heyitsben!! ^talk 17:21, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

• I have noted below, given her demonstration of piano prowess that I think my contribution and then removal of your Ukulele addition as well as my piano addition is indeed notable. CaffeinAddict (talk) 06:02, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

Yes she does play ukulele Abbeyl24 (talk) 10:42, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

Veganism

Please can we stop listing her as vegan when there's a 2019 interview confirming that she consumes honey? hhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1i4gmOHD6E, 1:58 Ben 12:33, 18 June 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bens dream (talk • contribs)

Not all vegans avoid honey. More insects are killed in the production of sugar. Only the ultra-extreme vegan fanatics avoid honey. If a lacto-ovo vegetarian gives up dairy and eggs, they are considered vegan to most people. https://www.thoughtco.com/vegans-and-honey-127536 77Mike77 (talk) 17:03, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

Yes she is a vegan Abbeyl24 (talk) 10:43, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

What?! She is vegan?? And she likes honey? Bro y u care there r more important stuff in live 🤦‍♂️ live ur life to the fullest and care about u Mohammed"hopefully"eilish (talk) 21:16, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Modeling: Career or endorsement?

Since Eilish signed to IMG Models, would her modeling gigs (e.g. fronting an MGM campaign, Calvin Klein commercial) be considered a part of her career or would it be considered an endorsement, since she is primarily a singer? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Benmite (talk • contribs) 22:34, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

I agree! I don't think it's right to call her a model in the first line of this article. A celebrity should never be called a model unless she worked as a model before she became a star (which can hardly be the case here). Jorgenjorgenjorgen (talk) 21:03, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Genre

"girlsareawsome.com" is not a high quality music source to cite for infobox main genre(s). WP:RSMUSIC: do not use AllMusic genre sidebar. Avoid WP:SYN. Cite reliable source(s) that unambiguously classify music under a genre ("hybrid blend", "bridge gap" are not unambiguous classifications); AllMusic only states "indie electro pop"; "electro pop" is the genre to cite to AllMusic. Lapadite (talk) 02:06, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Then Electropop doesn’t count. It literally said "…blends ethereal indie electro-pop with dark thematic tones." Billiekhalidfan (talk) 02:39, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Sure. I only leaned toward counting it as it doesn't say it blends electro pop with another genre. Lapadite (talk) 03:06, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

I mean, you could count it. I personally think they all can count even if it says the genre is blending with something else. Billiekhalidfan (talk) 03:19, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Splitting her awards and nominations

I'm opening this discussion for the user Another Believer, who split off the small awards and nominations section to List of awards and nominations received by Billie Eilish. I reverted this as I disagree and because per WP:SIZESPLIT, the section is too small to necessitate splitting at this time; the section contains just six small tables, and four of those tables have just one entry each. This article is still under 50 KB, and even if it were over 50 KB, these awards are too few and insignificant to have an article solely for them. It's just not worth making a separate article for in my opinion. Do others think this necessitates splitting off to a separate article? Ss112 13:48, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for starting a discussion. For the record, here was the latest version of the awards list before you redirected, so editors can review. Also, just a matter of time before she receives some Grammy noms and other music awards. Queue the 'crystal ball' argument, which is fine, but I'm just saying fork now or fork in a few months, what's the difference... ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:00, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

@Fortune Mabena: Thanks for your work on the awards list. Looks great! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:17, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

@Ss112: Are you now ok with the standalone list, given how much it's grown? If so, I'll archive this section. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:38, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

Who requested the histmerge? Ss112 15:40, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

Ss112, I'm not sure what you mean, I'm just asking if you're fine with there being a standalone list. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:57, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

@Another Believer: Didn't you notice the history of List of awards and nominations received by Billie Eilish? The user Fortune Mabena created content at a misspelt title ("recieved") and the history was merged with the article you created in draft and had moved over my redirect. Did you not request Anthony Appleyard perform the histmerge? Ss112 16:04, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

Ss112, I don't think so, but I don't remember exactly. I guess I'm less concerned about the page history and just wondering if you're fine with the existence of the current list. If so, this discussion is essentially over since you're the only editor who has questioned the list's necessity. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:07, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

Last name

Eilish isn't her last name (it's O'Connell), so why is it used to refer to her throughout the article? Billiekhalidfan (talk) 00:46, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

The reason why Eilish is used is because that is her stage name and the name she is known by. CookieMonster755✉ 20:57, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

O’ Connell Abbeyl24 (talk) 10:41, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

Why is O'Connell used inconsistently? GenacGenac (talk) 13:20, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Eilish is infact her stage name and she prefers to be called that. It is the name she is professionally known as therefore we should adress her as Billie Eilish. Jill granger394 (talk) 12:54, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Instruments

Yes, I understand the Template:Infobox musical artist/doc#instrument isn't a WP:COATRACK. She's notable for her piano playing which is why in my opinion thought to include it. [1] Her Ukulele use wasn't something I'd known, but is used. [2] "Known for" is a loose terminology especially considering a 17 year old at the moment. I'm interested in other opinions. Limiting a musician to "Vocals" is in my opinion diminishing the musician who has learned her craft. CaffeinAddict (talk) 05:58, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

The sources are not describing her as being notable for playing an instrument; it's just stating that she played one or talked about one at some point or other (a performance, a carpool karaoke, etc). That is why Template:Infobox musical artist/doc#instrument states "It is not intended as a WP:COATRACK for every instrument the subject has used". Notable for means that it is integral to her notability as an artist. She is not notable for playing an instrument; she is notable for her voice, music and image. You can mention the use of an instrument in the body of the article. An example of a contemporary artist who is notable for playing an instrument is H.E.R. Alicia Keys, Norah Jones, Fiona Apple also come to mind for female artists. There have been many discussions on this before for various artists; one recent example for reference is Talk:Camila Cabello#Instruments. Lapadite (talk) 06:36, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

She can play ukulele and piano. And probably much more Abbeyl24 (talk) 10:42, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

Unnessecary image change

Can someone change the image back to how it was? We don’t need to change the image. CheatCodes4ever (talk) 00:12, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

This current image is worlds better as far as I’m concerned. Trillfendi (talk) 17:13, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

I'm not a fan of the current image personally, because her head looks as if it's floating. On the other hand, I was liking the orange blue pink theme that was going on with the images: [3] 100cellsman (talk) 09:20, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

What we won’t do is have people constantly changing the photo everyday without coming to the talk page to get consensus on which one to use. Apparently different people have “preference” for different ones but it’s becoming disruption now that they’re trying to change it back every day. Trillfendi (talk) 14:21, 4 January 2020 (UTC)