Talk:Binondo
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What photo in Binondo?
editWhat photo would best represent Binondo? Plaza Lorenzo Ruiz? --Miguel 08:43, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Barangays section
editThe "barangays" section appears to have information that is not related to barangays. Someone the Person (talk) 02:21, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Sources
editNeeds sources and citing, or the whole article could be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Parkwells (talk • contribs) 19:44, 20 January 2011
Requested move
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The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 19:16, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
Binondo, Manila → Binondo – Per WP:PRECISE and WP:CONCISE, the "Manila" bit is unnecessary disambiguation. – seav (talk) 06:20, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
- Support as per nom. The name Binondo is well known and is recognizable even without the disamb.--RioHondo (talk) 07:22, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
- Support Agree that "Manila" is redundant. -- Ohc ¡digame! 03:29, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
- Support per nom. bd2412 T 21:01, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose until we have finalized naming conventions, which are currently under discussion at WT:TAMBAY. I would suggest reopening this RM should we get there, since then we will have clear guidelines as to which name should be used, rather than the current disjointed system we're currently using. --Sky Harbor (talk) 02:53, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
- Support per nom. As to waiting for naming conventions to be finalized, that's doing it backwards. See Shouldn't you get the policy/guideline changed, rather than try to subvert it one article at a time? --B2C 06:57, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
- I disagree. The fact that Filipino editors (at least those who have participated in discussions about the naming convention) are evenly split between the comma convention ("Binondo, Manila") and the no-comma convention ("Binondo") shows that there is currently no consensus for such a change to take place. --Sky Harbor (talk) 21:17, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
- There may be no consensus among "Filipino editors", but what matters is the broad consensus of the entire WP community, as reflected in policy and guidelines. --B2C 02:01, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
- I disagree. The fact that Filipino editors (at least those who have participated in discussions about the naming convention) are evenly split between the comma convention ("Binondo, Manila") and the no-comma convention ("Binondo") shows that there is currently no consensus for such a change to take place. --Sky Harbor (talk) 21:17, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
RM comments
edit@Sky Harbor:, the reason why I opened this RM is because districts like Binondo are not included in the WP:MOSPHIL naming convention. Thus, the WP:AT policy prevails (specifically WP:PRECISE and WP:CONCISE). —seav (talk) 19:39, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
- I likewise disagree. Districts are implicitly included in the guidelines, as they are smaller geographical entities of a number of cities, the same way barangays are explicitly mentioned in the convention. Just because districts are not explicitly mentioned in the convention does not mean that there is a license to circumvent the existing naming convention in order to support a particular position vis-à-vis naming conventions for Wikipedia articles which are currently being discussed, and upon which discussion is inconclusive.. --Sky Harbor (talk) 06:48, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- If you think this move is inappropriate, then start a Move Review. Because the move has been approved by a disinterested sysop, it means he/she finds the support arguments have more merit than your opposition per the WP:MOSPHIL status quo. Furthermore, there's no circumvention going on: the reasons for the move and implicitly agreed on by the closing sysop is rooted in the WP:AT policy and not just because districts are not explicitly mentioned in WP:MOSPHIL. —seav (talk) 06:00, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
- Hey, i circumvented the guidelines too with the moves i initiated on Samar and Samar (province), and Leyte and Leyte (province). But that was the necessary thing to do as MOSPHIL is plain wrong on this. "Furthermore, in the case of a province sharing the same name with a municipality or island, then the name of the province takes precedence unless it's a common name. For example, Cebu and Leyte." Samar and Leyte are islands now, not provinces which are just fractions of the primarytopics. :) --RioHondo (talk) 06:14, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Seav, you know what i just realized there isn't actually a MOS for barangays in WP:MOSPHIL, no mention of how barangay names should be titled, not even for districts. And thats why i remember now I wrote this on the mosphil talk page way back middle of 2012 calling for a single format which we havent got until now. A perfectly valid RM then. And you're right on BF Homes. :) --RioHondo (talk) 17:19, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
- If you think this move is inappropriate, then start a Move Review. Because the move has been approved by a disinterested sysop, it means he/she finds the support arguments have more merit than your opposition per the WP:MOSPHIL status quo. Furthermore, there's no circumvention going on: the reasons for the move and implicitly agreed on by the closing sysop is rooted in the WP:AT policy and not just because districts are not explicitly mentioned in WP:MOSPHIL. —seav (talk) 06:00, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
Data corrected: 1521 was Magellan - 1570 is colonization
editHello,
I corrected the date of 1521 which was mentioned for the colonization of Manila, but this is the year of Magellan who was not colonizing. But colonization of Manila Bay (with all "Christian" racism and segregation rules) started in 1570 with the Spanish (terrorist) invasion coming from Cebu which was already colonized (and terrorized). Military leader against the ruling Muslims was Martín de Goiti.
Michael Palomino, July 16, 2014
Logic chronologic historiography since 1992
History: http://www.geschichteinchronologie.ch/index-ENGL.html
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editAny sources that can be provided for the Chinese transliteration of Binondo? 李憲晉 - 리헌진 (talk) 04:32, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
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Yutivo bldg pic
editThere is a nice wartime photo of the Yutivo building, a well-known Binondo landmark, at Page 45 of the book Manila 1945: The Rest of the Story (Guillermo, Lucky and Parsons, Peter C., exec. ed. Manila 1945: The Rest of the Story. N.p.: AV Manila Creative Production Co., 2015.). The armored vehicle in the foreground is an American M7 self-propelled howitzer, which equipped Cannon Companies in the Pacific Theater. The American units known to be operating in this part of Greater Manila on 5 February 1945 were the 145th and 148th Infantry Regiments of the US 37th Infantry Division. Binondo at this time was part of the Greater Manila district called Bagumbuhay, this is according to Teodoro Agoncillo. Alfonso Aluit, however, maintains that Binondo was part of the district called Bagong Diwa. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.28.162.13 (talk) 13:00, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
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