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Santiago Colleges

Flagging Northeastern College of Santiago, Isabela for a 68.5% copyvio from school website. Couldn't put the hidden template myself since I'm not proficient in that kind of code. Borgenland (talk) 16:34, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

I've reverted it to the latest non-copyvio version (Which was on 2011). --Lenticel ^(talk) 09:19, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! I saw that the safe version had no intro so I tried to salvage one. Do correct if it still is problematic. Borgenland (talk) 09:48, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Update: I also ran through University of La Salette and it had a 95.4% copyvio from school website, hence the section renaming. Borgenland (talk) 09:53, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

@Borgenland: No non-copyvio version found. I suggest that you nominate this for speedy delete G12. Lenticel ^(talk) 01:17, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

A pity though, given that it’s a major university in the area. But I’ll try my best to salvage the thing even if it means downgrading it into a stub. Borgenland (talk) 06:21, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

It can still be recreated but without the added copyvio baggage. --Lenticel ^(talk) 08:29, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Was going to suggest preserving the references here, but, well. CMD (talk) 09:32, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Update: I chopped it down and finally provided a ref, albeit the school website. Borgenland (talk) 14:37, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

@Borgenland hindi ba't the school website is non-independent? (WP:INDEPENDENT). JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 10:24, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

I was aware of that but I was worried that a lack of sources could lead to G12 so I decided to use it as a stopgap. Borgenland (talk) 10:25, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

(←) School websites may be used as references (per the relevant guidelines) subject to the usual caveats. -Ian Lopez @ 07:44, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Invitation to Transportation Task Force

Hello! I am inviting everyone who's interested to be a part of the Transportation Task Force to make it more active.

This task force aims to improve articles related to transportation in the Philippines, covering topics such as railways, roads, aviation, maritime, and more.

I hope you can share your thoughts and improve the quality of Philippine transportation articles. Thanks! HiwilmsTalk 05:44, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Baguio Midland Courier

In light of the regional weekly publication ceasing their operations next month, I created a draft article so that other contributors can make the relevant improvements and hopefully move it to mainspace before the release of its final article on July 21. -Ian Lopez @ 08:16, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

To those who heeded the call to make relevant improvements to the said page, thank you. I'll be submitting the draft for review. -Ian Lopez @ 15:11, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

POGO raids

Should the two raids mentioned at Philippine Offshore Gaming Operator#Notable raids be split into separate articles? Or (as an alternative, considering a major debate at Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not#NOTNEWS), a list article covering notable raids, like List of raids on Philippine Offshore Gaming Operators? Although the impact and aftermath brought by the raids may be long-term to comply with WP:SUSTAINED. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 04:36, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Is there much more to say than what is currently in that article? I wouldn't split them as written into their own articles or a list. There are other raids that could be added however, taking a quick look this source mentions the Hong Tai raid. (Perhaps a good example of what the hypothetical split articles would look like too.) CMD (talk) 04:53, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Recent church article moves

Several church articles have been recently moved by User:CoptEgypt136. It might need scrutiny since the shorter common names were replaced by the longer official names. As I understand, the official names could be placed in the fullname {{Infobox church}} parameter and in the lead's first sentence. Longer article titles also would clutter the pushpin map since it would be automatically used as the map's label:

• CoptEgypt136 moved page Naic Church to Diocesan Shrine and Church of the Immaculate Conception Church (Naic)
• CoptEgypt136 moved page Diocesan Shrine of Saint Augustine to Diocesan Shrine of Saint Augustine and Church of Santa Cruz (Tanza)
• CoptEgypt136 moved page Our Lady of Candelaria Parish Church (Silang) to Diocesan Shrine and Church of Our Lady of Candelaria (Silang)
• CoptEgypt136 moved page St. Mary Magdalene Church (Kawit) to Diocesan Shrine and Church of Saint Mary Magdalene (Kawit)

Sanglahi86 (talk) 14:17, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Agree. This is an unnecessary overprecision case.Borgenland (talk) 14:23, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

The issue has been resolved as HueMan1 reverted the undiscussed moves. Sanglahi86 (talk) 12:11, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Manny Castaneda

It looks like no one has yet picked up writing an article about Manny Castaneda (even though his death was extensively covered by the media), so I created a new article. Please feel free to add more details. Thanks! --- Tito Pao (talk) 07:41, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Ramon Montaño

Recently deceased subject needs major cleanup. Just gutted it because its content was basically unsourced. Borgenland (talk) 16:21, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

No article and scientific name for dalandan

Currently, there is no article specific to dalandan on the English Wikipedia.

The closest there is to one is a redirect that currently points to Orange (fruit). However, in the interest of having an article specific to dalandan on the English Wikipedia, I tried to determine if there are any existing articles on dalandan in other languages. Confusingly, there are also conflicting sources on what exact orange species dalandan even is.

Varying sources on Google say that dalandan is Citrus sinensis while others say it is Citrus aurantium. Neither Wikipedia articles on the two species mention dalandan as a local name or the Philippines. On other Wikipedias including the Tagalog Wikipedia specifically, it is claimed to be Citrus sinensis and points toward the translations of the Citrus sinensis article.

Can someone help and figure out which of the two species is really dalandan? Or maybe its a hybrid of a certain species or a completely different species? Ganmatthew (talk • contribs) 16:55, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Have you tried looking for sources on the Department of Agriculture? Borgenland (talk) 17:02, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Found this [1] paper from the FDA. Borgenland (talk) 17:03, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

This is pretty helpful. The DA considers calamansi to be Citrus microcarpa var. Bunge while dalandan is Citrus aurantium aka bitter orange.

But I'm a bit confused with the scope and with Annex A. Is the DA using calamansi to refer to all limes and dalandan to refer to all oranges? Annex A's table of variations feels like a stretch because it's considering every orange as dalandan as well as pineapple and watermelon for some reason.

Also, I think I've heard often that dalandan supposedly doesn't turn orange, so calling it an orange is weird. Ganmatthew (talk • contribs) 09:49, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

I'm also just as confused with what the hell a King and a Hamlin is. Borgenland (talk) 13:22, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

The redirect history shows it was a previous article than had been redirected to Orange (fruit). There might be useful information there. In them meantime, I added to the redirect {{R with possibilities}} and {{R to article without mention}}. Sanglahi86 (talk) 15:17, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Need background on a possible incident I might be involved with

Hello! I am currently involved in an investigation regarding a WP:NEWSPAPER and WP:COPYVIO case of a user who is not a member of Tambayan but is also engaged in editing Philippine articles. For transparency, I am not the one under the spotlight but now I am confused since the said other user is alleged to be the sock of an old banned user under the name JudgeFloro or something similar to that. Can anyone enlighten me as to what happened before that? Borgenland (talk) 14:11, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Judgefloro was a prolific photo uploader who was blocked for sockpuppetry. Per WP:DENY, this isn't really something I'd discuss further here. For further action on socks, follow the WP:SPI process. For further action on on-wiki copyright violations, follow the WP:CCI/WP:CPN process, whichever applicable. Chlod (say hi!) 14:19, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

@Borgenland are you referring to me (the other user who is not a member of Tambayan)? I just mentioned a concern by Commons/enwiki admin Explicit when they posted the possible Valenzuela400 sockpuppetry on my talk page. Of course, their concern should not be ignored. Also note that I earlier posted this concern on Just Step Sideways' talk page (he was once critical of Judgefloro's uploads (read here); Just Step Sideways' former username was Beeblebrox). JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 03:22, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

I was referring to the other user (who is also not in this project). Borgenland (talk) 03:40, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

@Borgenland speaking of WP:NEWSPAPER, would Valenzuela400's contribution at SMNI (edit) be a breach of it? It was made in May. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 08:27, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

I don't think so, the details are concise enough. But I think the title should be shortened into Lawsuit/Libel lawsuit and a lot of common terms need to be delinked. Borgenland (talk) 08:33, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

 Done making the edit. No need to link Rodrigo Duterte as the link already exists two times in sections above. Still, cyberlibel needs to be linked as it is a term not used outside the Philippines (a Philippine English-exclusive invention). JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 08:42, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

UAAP season 61

Calling for an admin to revert the move, back to UAAP Season 61. Howard the Duck (talk) 20:04, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Bagong Silang

The law splitting the brgy was signed on April 5, with a plebiscite expected to have been held before earlier this month? Any updates? Borgenland (talk) 09:05, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Buendia station (PNR) § Merge with Dela Rosa station

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Buendia station (PNR) § Merge with Dela Rosa station, which is within the scope of this WikiProject. 360kong (talk) 09:42, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Online RS

I notice that our wikiproject doesn't have a Online RS list to discuss to if pinoymountaineer.com is a WP:RS or not?

On that topic, should we create one? Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 13:26, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Support. Borgenland (talk) 14:09, 12 July 2024 (UTC)