Talk:Blaže Koneski

Accusation of Serbianization of Macedonian language by Koneski

Such accusations are espoused not only by some scholars but by a lot of researchers as historians, linguists, politicians etc. Please do not put this info to the bottom, but discuss the issue here. Thanks. Jingiby (talk) 12:48, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi, please provide me a quote from the two you cite in the lead which states that Koneski was accused of serbianizing the Macedonian language, thanks. --Local hero ^talk 20:51, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Hello. There is some misunderstanding on your part that one sentence can express an entire article with the ideas and context it reflects. Often this is impossible without reading the entire article. Also according to the rules here in the introduction it is not necessary to cite sources. In the main text, enough are given here about Serbization and Koneski's role. However, for your convenience, I am providing here a link to Professor Kronsteiner's article translated into Bulgarian, because you understand it. Read the text and you will understand that the author's idea is the undoubted Serbization in the codification of the Macedonian language. In this context, Koneski's decisive role in this process is indicated. Greetings. Jingiby (talk) 04:47, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

What I am trying to clarify is how we are attributing the "serbianization of Macedonian" to Koneski. If we are making a claim in the very lead of this article that Koneski serbianized the Macedonian language, we should have a source that directly backs up this claim, not sources about how his own speech may have been serbianized. I cannot find anywhere in the source you've just linked where it claims Koneski serbianized the Macedonian language. --Local hero ^talk 18:24, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

I don't see how the text you just added addresses my concerns. If this is true and we're presenting it in the lead, it should be very easy for you to find an explicit assertion that "Konest serbianized the Macedonian language" or was accused of doing so. --Local hero ^talk 14:17, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

The text in the article claims there are accusation that Koneski do that. Unfortunately, the attacks of the neo-nationalist, anti-Yugoslav Macedonians on Koneski did not begin in the early 21st century (p. 9). Rather, they began in the late 1980s and early 1990s, while Koneski was still alive. Risteski (1988) was an indirect attack on Koneski, but by the early 1990s, the right-wing press was full of direct attacks accusing Koneski of “Serbianizing” Macedonian. The chief focus of these attacks was the exclusion of ъ from Macedonian Cyrillic. Language Issues in former Yugoslav Space: A Commentary Victor A. Friedman doi: 10.12681/awpel.22594. Jingiby (talk) 16:57, 17 August 2022 (UTC)