Talk:Black Forest

Mining history

As the Schwarzwald was a very important area of mining in the medieval age, I have inserted something about the many mines open for the public. Can someone with a besser grasp of english than mine please get this a bit more fluently, and also insert a translation for Schaubergwerk "show mine"? Christian Rößler (talk) 11:38, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

I hate hitlier and sovet ouin

so y would d  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.26.105.80 (talk) 19:52, 30 April 2012 (UTC) 

How large?

How large is the Black Forest region? It would be nice to add the area (in square km) to the article. Funnyhat 03:12, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism?

What is this about? Camels and Ostriches can be seen at St. Peter near Freiburg where the two metre tall blue necked ostriches live on a 300 year old Black Forest farm. In Rotfelden over 60 Black Forest camels are also kept in the lap of luxury. It is no longer necessary to make a trip to the desert to finally ride a camel. Everything is possible in the Black Forest 201.80.35.163 07:13, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Judge it by yourself. I have no clue, but here's the diff: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Black_Forest&diff=138699578&oldid=138698337 LGMᚂ 17:06, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Check out the official Black Forest tourism site, which notes camels and ostriches: Black Forest tourism Frog47 21:38, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Move!!

This article needs to be moved to/renamed Schwarzwald. I see no logical reason why its named 'Black Forest' . The official name is Schwarzwald, not 'Black Forest. The article for Machu Pichu isn't called 'Old Mountain', and wilkipedia should be consistent. This should not just be a redirect. Good Night --71.107.69.226 05:31, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Black Forest is the common English name, see e.g. [1]. According to the Wikipedia Naming Conventions, we use the English name when commonly used; e.g., 'Germany' is not at 'Deutschland'. I do not think there is such a thing as an official name for a forest. Chl 04:25, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Agree with Ch1. Per the naming conventions, the most familiar name should be used. It's called a black forest cake, not a schwarzwaelder cake, after all. 12.163.5.210 02:45, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

You may find this hard to believe, but the cake is in fact called "Schwarzwälder Kirschtorte".Kar98 (talk) 05:03, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

why is it called the black forest? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.113.219.148 (talk) 20:58, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

That is from the roman times. The Romans called it "silva nigra" because the trees (mainly conifers) were growing so close to each other that it is factually dark - black - when walking under them. This is still true for some areas today. Derflipper (talk) 03:18, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

There is a German version of Wikipedia [2] in which it is called Scwarzwald [3]. Synetech (talk) 00:03, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Quote: "I do not think there is such a thing as an official name for a forest." Oh, really? How'd you define "official name", then? Anyhow, the forest's name is Schwarzwald, like it or not, official, too, but with the english speaking part of the world occasionally substituting translated or evolved english names instead of the german ones (Munich and Nuremberg come to mind), if Black Forest is the common version, stick to it. Wether it is really neccessary to translate or modify names is another question. Then again, not all people can pronounce every language. KapHorn (talk) 13:17, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

The map

The map is a bit weak. I suggest adding the map used in the German Wikipedia article Schwarzwald http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Schwarzwald_topo.jpg P.S., its Schwarzwälderkirschtorte! TiffaF 07:04, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

schwarzwald is bigger then on this map — Preceding unsigned comment added by KarlJun (talk • contribs) 23:33, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Highest waterfall?

It is claimed in this article that Germany's highest waterfall is on the Gutach (I corrected it from Wutach) river in Triberg, and everywhere I have been able to check this seems to be what is reported (including in German wiki at [4]). However, I have also seen in Triberg this claim reported as incorrect, the title going to Rothbachfall. So far, I have found one site which claims this as 1000' (i.e. over 300m). Any hope of clarification here? (I will continue to search and see if I can pin it down. Meanwhile, I will post similar message on discussion for Triberg.) Emeraude 21:31, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Etymology

It would be nice if there were an indication of why the forest has the name it does. I’m sure that there are plenty of people who would like to know. Synetech (talk) 00:03, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes I certainly would. In addition there is no historical section about the Forest such as when it became known as "the Black Forest" who ruled over it etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.252.183.253 (talk) 02:53, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

References

This article is in need of expansion and inline references. At this point, there are only two references, both in the animal life section, and both linking to the same site, the official Black Forest tourism site. I am sure that we can expand and improve the article, and find other references for the assertions contained herein. ---RepublicanJacobite_{The'FortyFive'} 18:17, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Political

I deleted the following statement ("This section of Germany was once ruled by the schweikart, steingraber family, until a gambling member of the family gambled it away.") because it is complete nonsense and not proofed by any references. --92.200.96.123 (talk) 23:22, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Hansel & Gretel Connection?

The opening paragraph concludes with the sentence, "It was also used as the setting for the popular fairy tale Hansel and Gretel;" I haven't found any translation of the story that specifies The Black Forest as the setting, just "a great forest," in fact, The Grimms' stated that it was derived "from various stories from Hessen," not Baden-Württemberg. Should this be edited out? BrianWyant (talk) 02:33, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Done. --Sitacuisses (talk) 17:55, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Fasnet

I have replaced the word "Rosenmontag" with "Fasnetmendig", the name used in the Black Forest for the Monday before lent starts. "Rosenmontag" is used in other regions of Germany where Fasnet/Karneval is celebrated, namely Mainz, Köln (Cologne) and Düsseldorf. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.154.143.155 (talk) 13:36, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

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Conflict of size

The opening paragraph gives the length of the forest as 160 km but the Infobox gives it as 150 km. Does anybody have a way of resolving this? I am aware that the size is approximate anyway but I would prefer consistency within the article. MWchat (talk) 08:09, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for spotting that. I've corrected them in line with a source, although it would be good for that to be corroborated by others. --Bermicourt (talk) 16:30, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

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"Fauna" subsection

"In addition to the characteristic range of fauna found in Central European forests, the following less common animals may be observed in the Black Forest..."

There is no "Fauna of Central European forests" article to link to and one cannot assume that the average reader is familiar with the characteristic range of fauna found in Central European forests.

It would greatly appreciated if anybody with an interest/expertise in the subject matter could expand the subsection to include the forest's widespread fauna species. Mooonswimmer 17:30, 21 December 2022 (UTC)