Talk:Black Man (novel)

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Lennart97 in topic Requested move 9 June 2021

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Is there a reference in support of the claim that "Black Man is set in the same universe as Morgan's Takeshi Kovacs novels"? D.brodale 21:36, 31 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

No, and in fact if you look at the Richard Morgan article you'll find that it isn't. Martian relics were found by 2089 (c.f. Broken Angels), which is over fifteen years before the events of Black Man. Ewan 19:55, 2 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

I put that in as I just thought it was obvious. It's set on Earth in an earlier time obviously, Mars is a major part of the plot, altered carbon is mentioned as are the Bancroft family. Virtual reality is used a lot as in the later stories. One character talks about how 'pretty soon' it will be possible to record peoples brain states. As for references, this guy agrees with me: http://sandstormreviews.blogspot.com/2007/03/black-man-richard-morgan.html as does this one: http://www.thegenrefiles.com/2007/03/07/highly-recommended-reading-black-man-by-richard-morgan/ Anyway, take it out if you don't feel it's obvious and/or sourced.

--Shimbo 20:57, 2 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

From my reading of the two above-referenced review shorts, I don't gather that Black Man/Thirteen is set in the same fictional universe as the Kovacs works ... the first reviewer merely asserts it, the second openly postulates it to be as such. I can't contest (having not read Morgan's earlier books myself) Ewan's statement as to conflicting timelines or removal of the problematic lines here within the Black Man article. D.brodale 21:11, 2 September 2007 (UTC)Reply
Added link to Richard Morgan audio interview where he discusses the book, in particular the part where he talks about the book being in a different universe from the Kovacs books. If someone can format it properly please do so. Also here is another interview, this time in text http://www.uksfbooknews.net/2007/03/19/richard-morgan-on-new-novel-black-man/ Ewan 10:12, 18 September 2007 (UTC)Reply
I took out the link Ewan added, because i didn't want to listen to the interview right now; i did check the other one, though, and added it in and formatted it (i think) correctly. Here's Ewan's other link, if you want it. Cheers, Lindsay (talk) 16:43, 3 February 2008 (UTC)Reply
Erm, why should whether you want to listen to it influence whether it belongs in the article? -- 128.240.229.7 (talk) 14:07, 18 June 2008 (UTC)Reply

American title

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Is there any place on or in the book itself that gives the title as Thirteen and not Th1rte3n? --DocumentN 23:17, 6 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

I don't own the book (Morgan's other work wasn't to my taste), but FWIW, Amazon's reprint of the publisher's book description says "Thirteen". So do all the reviews it lists. —Cryptic 23:29, 6 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
Inconclusive! --DocumentN 23:31, 6 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
The publisher's own site has it in all-letters, too. —Cryptic 23:36, 6 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

Number of Pages

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I notice on the left hand side of the article it says that the paperback book has 320 pages (atleast that what I'm assuming 320pp means). I just grabbed my copy of the book, which is paperback, and it has 546 pages. I'm not gonna change it but could someone check a paperback copy and see how many pages it is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.184.34.216 (talk) 03:57, 8 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

13 vs 13.75

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I don't remember any thirteen and three quarters crud, he was just known as a Thirteen or Variant Thirteen, aka unluck in slang. Whoever made that edit should cite it , I don't have the book with me --92.36.239.19 (talk) 17:41, 25 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

That's correct, as far as I recall — and I've just read it. Pity I didn't read this page beforehand, then I could have made sure. Paul Magnussen (talk) 16:38, 23 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

Crab people ???

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I've read all the books and nowhere do I remember any reference to "the invasion of Mars by the subterranean crab people" Lgonggr (talk) 14:46, 4 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 9 June 2021

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Lennart97 (talk) 10:22, 16 June 2021 (UTC)Reply


– Like Black Woman, Black Man should be the disambiguation page. Black Man (novel) exists already as a redirect, not sure why. It's a little bit confusing. RivetHeadCulture (talk) 09:39, 9 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

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