Talk:Black September
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edit"And it was none other than Pakistan’s General Muhammad Zia-Ul-Haq, then a Brigadier, who helped King Hussein carry out the massacre of 25,000 Palestinians, in what is now known as Black September of 1970." Drsruli (talk) 18:57, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
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editThere are no other copies of this image anywhere online. It is a small picture, and appears to look very modern. Can we get some confirmation this is actually taken in 1970 and not just mislabelled? 106.69.214.252 (talk) 22:13, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
Pakistani troops and Gen Zia
editGen Zia was actively involved in this conflict shouldn't be be in the infobox too Waleed Ukranian (talk) 06:37, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Gen Zia was a person, not troops/ Makeandtoss (talk) 09:54, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- some sources state Pakistani Training mission also actively took part in the conflict Waleed Ukranian (talk) 14:58, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- https://www.news18.com/explainers/when-pakistani-dictator-zia-ul-haq-helped-jordan-in-killing-3000-palestinians-8619780.html
- Such as this one states that Pakistani troops were actively involved Waleed Ukranian (talk) 15:03, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Low quality source that is also ambiguous about the details. This is not mentioned in overwhelming majority of RS. Makeandtoss (talk) 15:08, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- The Pakistani government was not involved in this conflict. We had multiple discussions regarding this. Skitash (talk) 15:18, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Doesn't Zia deserve a mention in commanders section, not saying to add Pakistan in beligrents but to add Zia only in commanders 9 Waleed Ukranian (talk) 15:55, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think so. That doesn't seem like an improvement to me. Your own source states that
"Zia-ul-Haq’s exact role in Black September is debatable"
. Skitash (talk) 17:17, 11 March 2024 (UTC)- He deserves a mention in commanders section atleast though Waleed Ukranian (talk) 17:54, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think so. That doesn't seem like an improvement to me. Your own source states that
- Doesn't Zia deserve a mention in commanders section, not saying to add Pakistan in beligrents but to add Zia only in commanders 9 Waleed Ukranian (talk) 15:55, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- some sources state Pakistani Training mission also actively took part in the conflict Waleed Ukranian (talk) 14:58, 10 March 2024 (UTC)