Talk:Blanqueamiento

Deletions, sources

The problem with the article, besides being edited by throwaway accounts, is that too much was original research with sources not mentioning the subject. A shame as there are good sources, eg [1] "Gateway to Whiteness Using the Census to Redefine and Reconfigure Hispanic/Latino Identity, in Efforts to Preserve a White American National Identity;" Mendoza, Gustavo Chacon. Dougweller (talk) 15:23, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Several sentences were almost copy/pasted from an unsigned article in a free encyclopedia (archive.org copy, the article no longer exists). This doesn't look like a reliable source.

Since there is only one reliable source left, and it talks about marrying whiter people, I have rewritten the article according to that. --Enric Naval (talk) 16:43, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I missed that. I should mention Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Maritzaperez10 perhaps. Dougweller (talk) 17:01, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Argentina: el blanqueamiento

I have a small collection of sources (some are books) to the whitening "el blanqueamiento" in Argentina, some of which tell about the deliberate extermination of black African men, forced to partake in the brutal war of the triple alliance and exposed to yellow fever, but I am working on several other articles so don't have the time to write on this subject. I hope someone else will take the challenge.

During the 1870s and the 1880s, Argentina wanted to whiten the country and ignore its black population. Culturally, Argentina became “whitened” in the late 19th and early 20th century. Public displays of “African” culture such as the carnival, religious celebrations and brotherhoods were suppressed by the government.

"Political leaders, such as Domingo Faustino Sarmiento, wanted to modernize Argentina and looked to the United States, England, and France as models. ... As Argentina’s connections with industrialized countries strengthened, it adopted popular scientific racism, which stressed that a modernized country could only be a white country. George Reid Andrews: "The Afro-Argentines of Buenos Aires, 1800–1900", University of Wisconsin Press, 1980, pp. 102-105

In the 1880s Domingo Sarmiento proudly wrote that the banners of the African nations that one used to see at the old carnival celebrations now had been replaced by the flags of the various French, Italian and Spanish clubs and societies. G. R. Andrews: "The Afro-Argentines of Buenos Aires: 1890-1900", p. 106

"The phenomenon of the low numbers of Afro-Argentines in the twentieth-century population of the Republic of Argentina is sometimes referred to as the 'riddle' of the disappearance of the Afro-Argentines, or even the 'black genocide'." Corbière & Ruchansky, "Negritud y Racismo: El genocidio de la poblacion negra de Argentina"

Alejandro Solomianski: "Identidades Secretas: La Negritud Argentina", Rosario, Beatriz Viterbo, 2003, ISBN 9 508 45127 0 refers to their absence from Argentine history as a "discursive genocide", p. 119. http://www.elcorreo.eu.org/Negritud-y-racismo-El-genocidio-de?lang=fr

Marvin A. Lewis: "Afro-Argentine Discourse: Another Dimension of the Black Diaspora", University of Missouri Press, 1996. ISBN: 0 826 21042 2, p. 19: "1869, the proportion of the national population who were of African origin was registered as 26.1%; in 1895, it was 1.8%."

Argentina enacted the Law of Freedom by the Womb Act in 1813, which freed all children of slaves, yet as late as Buenos Aires continued to allow slave ownership until 1861. G. R. Andrews: "The Afro-Argentines of Buenos Aires, 1800–1900", p. 57

Records estimated that 75,000 Africans entered the ports of River Plate, within a 220-year span or an average of 340 slaves per year. ... Census information compiled between 1778 and 1836 reveal that blacks accounted for a sizable minority of the Buenos Aires’ population. Of the 24,363 individuals documented by the 1778 census, 7,236, or more than 30 percent, were black. G. R. Andrews: "The Afro-Argentines of Buenos Aires, 1800–1900", p. 66

Ten interior cities and the territories surrounding their jurisdiction were home to approximately 60,000 Afro-Argentines in 1777. Russell Edward Chace: “The African Impact on Colonial Argentina", University of California Santa Barbara, 1971, p. 101

Claire Healy: "Afro-Argentine Historiography - Review Essay" http://www.calstatela.edu/faculty/asolomi/images/Afro-ArgReview.pdf

John.St (talk) 20:22, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Merge with Racial whitening

The Racial whitening article deals very much with the same contents as this one, with the sole difference that Racial whitening focus on Brazil. One term/phenomenon should be given one article as long as the length issues makes is necessary to split. Sietecolores (talk) 03:30, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

In order to merge, the new page would require having distinct and separate sections. Racial whitening in Brazil is not equal or of comparable standard to Argentina or Chile, for example. The current impacts and historical methodology of racial whitening can't be assumed to be similar between countries because each region has a different concept of race and ethnic identity. My suggestion would in be to retain blanqueamiento/branqueamento as a single page separated into spanish & portugese policies (as suggested below), or on the general Racial Whitening page to include a smaller subsection that redirects to independent pages for the two policies. SaintAndromeda (talk) 17:29, 21 October 2020 (UTC) SaintAndromeda [12:29, 21 October 2020 (UTC -6)]

Support merge, but to the English title as that will be more comprehensible to readers (recognizable to non-experts and natural), as per WP:CRITERIA . Hence, merge to Racial whitening. Klbrain (talk) 22:03, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Opppse per SaintAndromeda, we have articles that delve into the implementation of specific concepts in various cultures, sometimes these are stubs, but in this case it is extensive enough to warrant its own article. Since Brazil has a separate history of race relations than other countries I think that the Brazilian article has enough weight to stand on its own. --Donald Trung (talk) 15:58, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

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This article terms (like whitening or improve the race) needs to be on either Portuguese and Spanish

Hello,

These terms should be in both languages, once they are not equal by means of location. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.84.123.250 (talk) 19:52, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Blanqueamiento

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Blanqueamiento's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "ref1":

• From Demographics of Argentina: . 10 June 2007 https://web.archive.org/web/20070610215422/http://www.cels.org.ar/Site_cels/publicaciones/informes_pdf/1998.Capitulo7.pdf. Archived from the original (PDF) on 10 June 2007. Retrieved 15 January 2018. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
• From Stolen Generations: Western Australia State Archives, 993/423/38, "Absorption of Half Castes into the White Population".
• From Indigenous peoples in Argentina: [2]
• From Immigration to Argentina: https://web.archive.org/web/20070610215422/http://www.cels.org.ar/Site_cels/publicaciones/informes_pdf/1998.Capitulo7.pdf

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 14:03, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Argentina?

I'm curious as to why the most well known example of policy, Argentina's, is not included in this article. 2600:1003:B02D:DEB5:417B:BB57:6900:D6AF (talk) 19:48, 3 January 2024 (UTC)