Talk:Blue-faced honeyeater/GA1

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Reviewer: Ucucha 14:45, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

• The first sentence of "Taxonomy" is incomplete; do you mean he also considered placing it in other genera? And why would the specific name change when he puts it in another genus?

Oops. Made it a sentence. The names are all from Latham's source, but I need to find a fulltext of Latham's 1802 work to clarify :/ Casliber (talk · contribs) 17:18, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

It's on Google Books here, but I don't get the full text; perhaps someone in the U.S. will. Ucucha 17:24, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Neither do I - I recall Sasata finding this somewhere - but where? Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:20, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Looking at this page, and searching for "cyanops" and Entomyza sheds some light on the case however - duly clarified.

You may also want to cite this on cyanous being the same. Ucucha 16:33, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

I believe that is the same book as I have already cited - but the other version (a) lacked the author, and (b) there is some discrepancy over the date. Thanks for that. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:34, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

• myzein is not a stem, but the infinitive.

correct. stem --> word.

ento-, on the other hand, can hardly be called a word, so I made it just "Ancient Greek". Ucucha 08:57, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

• otis/ωτος: that's not the correct transliteration. I guess the first is the way the word is used in Latin, and the second the correct Greek genitive.

Yes, it is an awkward construction and you're right. I figured the genitive allowed one to see the 't' in the word root as the nominative in Greek is contracted. Maybe just having as ωτ- is better (?) Casliber (talk · contribs) 17:18, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

I think I found a way to say this clearly. Ucucha 08:57, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Yes, that works for me. Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:06, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

• "Molecular work supports the current classification of albipennis and cyanotis, while only one bird of griseigularis was sampled and shown to be generically close to cyanotis." perhaps it would be better to introduce the subspecies before you say this.

this is tricky. I can slioghtly emphasize but need to think about this rejigged now. Casliber (talk · contribs) 17:37, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

• The description has a lot of very short paragraphs.

rejigged Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:16, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

• What is the subspecies in Victoria and in the Aru Islands?

the nominate..and the second is extrmely difficult to find information on.The sources don't clarify this which is odd Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:38, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

South Australia is also nominate I guess? Can't find anything on the Aru population either. Ucucha 08:57, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Yes SA is nominate - I am puzzled over what to doabout Aru Islands. I am pretty sure it will be griseogularis but no sources explicitly say so. I can't say the source doesn't say as that is a comment not in original. Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:44, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

• "Prey are caught mostly by sallying, although birds also probe and glean." please cite

done Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:38, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

• "Their diet consists of pollen, berries, nectar, from such species as grasstrees (Xanthorrhoea) and scarlet gum (Eucalyptus phoenicea), and cultivated crops such as bananas or particularly grapes, but the bulk of their diet consists of insects, including cockroaches, termites, grasshoppers, bugs such as lerps, scale (Coccidae) and shield bugs (Pentatomidae), beetles such as bark beetles, chafers (subfamily Melolonthinae), Click beetles, Leaf beetles, ladybirds of the genus Scymnus, weevils and shot hole borers, flies, moths, bees, ants and spiders." that is one sentence; probably not a good idea.

I've split it. Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:21, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

• You give the scientific name for some other species of birds mentioned, but not all; it should be there either for all or none.

trying to do for first mention of individual species. Casliber (talk · contribs) 17:37, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

• "The Blue-faced Honeyeater may be kept in an aviary in New South Wales as long as the owner has a Class 2 Licence, that is two years' experience of keeping birds and demonstrate has appropriate facilities to house them." unclear

its what the licence says. I'll try rephrase a bit Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:41, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

"demonstrate has"? The sentence doesn't really work. Ucucha 08:57, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

better now? Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:20, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

• "Birds from south western and southern New Guinea. Nova Guinea Résultats de l'expédition scientifique Néerlandaise a la Nouvelle-Guinée." (ref. title) That sounds odd: what is the "Nova Guinea" doing in the middle?

It is the name of the journal - see here and here. I formatted the ref. Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:33, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

• White 1922 (current ref. 34) is missing volume number.

volume=22 added. Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:54, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

• Some inconsistency in refs, mostly because some but not all use the cite templates.
  • Still some inconsistency: some separate authors by commas, others by semicolons; some separate initials from surname by a comma, some do not; some use periods after initials, some do not.
    • Think I got all the refs now. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:42, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Ucucha 14:45, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

I'll now pass this as a GA; thanks for all the improvements. Ucucha 16:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)