Talk:Blue (Don Cherry's dog)

Requested move 17 February 2022

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

No consensus to move. There is a clear absence of consensus for a move of this title. BD2412 T 07:36, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Blue (Don Cherry's dog) → Blue (dog) – And also Blue (dog) moved to Blue (fictional dog). The current Blue (dog) is a redirect to Blue_(disambiguation)#Fictional_entities. There's at least 2 dogs in that list, so the new redirect fits, and it seems clear that the real dog should have Blue (dog). Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:00, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink). GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 20:32, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

• Reversion was asked by Yaksar on my user talk page. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 20:32, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
• My concern that leads me to oppose is that I don't believe the new title provides adequate disambiguation. Sure, the animated Blue is fictional, but that doesn't make dog an unambiguous distinction, just as we couldn't put a real lion at Aslan (lion) because Aslan is from a book. I think it might be a clearer case if the Don Cherry blue was more well known, but common usage seems to bring up the animated Blue, other non-notable Blue's, or even the Blue from Old Blue (song) before it gets to this one. I don't have any issue with the Blue (dog) named being pointed away from the animated character and to the dab page though.--Yaksar (let's chat) 20:50, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
• Comment. There are two evident problems here: there's nothing in this article to suggest that this dog or series of dogs has any kind of notability independent of that of the owner, so the page should probably become a redirect (at which point the title is of fairly minimal importance); and secondly, the current disambiguation is deceptive – if we see that there's a page about "Don Cherry's dog", we can reasonably expect it to be about a dog owned by the world-famous Don Cherry, not by this person. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 21:07, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

• Further comment I've redirected the page to Blue's Clues per the outcome of this old discussion. If that doesn't stick I suppose there's always AfD. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 13:57, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose. Blue (dog) can continue to point to the disambiguation page. Don Cherry's dog can probably be merged to Don Cherry (ice hockey). 162 etc. (talk) 00:17, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose. I agree with Yaksar, the proposed move would effectively create a WP:INCDAB, and this is not one of the rare situations where incomplete disambiguation is appropriate. Colin M (talk) 02:41, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose per Yaksar, Blue's Clues gets 34,068 views compared with only 429[[1]] for this one. Crouch, Swale (talk) 10:20, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose if I felt like arguing I would straight up AFD Blue (Don Cherry's dog) during this discussion. It's certainly not more important than the character from Blue's Clues. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 02:11, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose. Blue from Blue's Clues is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Also, merge this page with Don Cherry. –Showiecz (talk) 10:55, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.