Talk:Bob Denard

Real Name

French Wikipedia contributors seem to agree on "Gilbert Bourgeaud" being only an alias and "Robert Denard" being his birth name. They cite three sources in the discussion page (unfortunately not in the article itself):

• The French official "état civil"
• "Le roi de Fortune" by Pierre Lunel, Editions N°1 1991
• "Corsaire de la Rébublique" by Bob Denard, Robert Laffont 1998

See: [1] There does not seem to be consensus on the matter. Sym zo (talk) 14:28, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

--> Indeed, Gilbert Bourgeaud, aswell as Saïd Mustapha Mahdjoub, are only an aliases. His real name is Robert Denard. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.204.250.175 (talk) 20:51, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Untitled

• bigamous - I mean married with more than one women at one time, but I'm not sure this is the way to spell. Pascal 19:58, 5 Aug 2003 (UTC)

POV Issue

I'm not sure that this article is unbiased. Statements such as

"He is responsible for untold numbers of deaths and contributed greatly to the destabilization of Africa that continues today."

and

"His "favorite" target were the Comoros."

don't seem to me to reflect a NPOV. I'm not familiar enough with the subject matter to make a correction, but perhaps someone else is.

-elliott

He was a key player in attempts to slow the destabilization of Africa that continues today. -- that doesn't seem much better. Which one is it? I remove the sentence until either side comes up with sources.... dab 18:38, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Brithdate

I have seen several Google sites that say he was born on January 20. One of them even has his horoscope cast for that date. RickK 23:54, Jan 23, 2005 (UTC)

This need serious work.

There's no doubt that Denard was sometime hired by French secret services however the support of South Africa to Denard seems also well established. Ericd 22:58, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Denard returns at the end of 1964 to Congo RD to the head of the 1 er CHOC witch it created. By taking mercenaries resulting from the Paras and Légion. It forms this small battalion with the assistance of a handle of Katangais. It contributes to the victory over the comminist rebels of GBENYE, SOUMIALOT and MULELE. While intervening on a large territory like France ,while having many deaths and bléssés, it will make it possible the population to réinstate their cities anad villages. In 1967, arrived the tragedy of the mercenaries taken at the trap of Mobutu.

proper citations

this article seems to lack a serious number of citations, particularly the sections concerning his alleged ties with the French secret service. given his death, there is bound to be increased traffic to his entry - I recommend those of you who know more about this fascinating man make sure all of your facts check out!!!

cheers, Spankmecold 17:46, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

I removed the sentence about Denard working for/with MI6. If it's a notable controversial accusation, it should be worded as such with the proper citation. In the case, the sentence reads as speculation by an editor. --68.26.86.46 18:11, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071014/ap_on_re_eu/obit_denard;_ylt=AhuDR_557GKpQrNAC1bicXdvaA8F

Makes a reference to working with British Intelligence.Die4Dixie 21:59, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Comoros 1995 coup

What did happen is rather confusing, but according to Wikipedia this is certainly not true:

However, Djohar wasn't restored, but was replaced by Mohamed Taki Abdulkarim, who was supported by Paris. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.52.215.67 (talk) 00:41, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

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Dates inconsistent

In the section “1989 coup and subsequent trial”, it states “he had to face charges in May 1999 for his role in the 1989 coup”. Then “Afterward, president Mohamed Taki Abdulkarim declared that he refused Denard's return to the Comoros. On 6 November 1998, Abdulkarim died under suspicious circumstances.” So Abdulkarim died a year before he refused Denard re-entry - after the trial??? perhaps the May 1999 date is incorrect? Ptilinopus (talk) 13:43, 4 August 2019 (UTC)