Talk:Venezuelan refugee crisis/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Atsme (talk · contribs) 11:04, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	In the lead: "...refers to the emigration of millions of Venezuelans from their native country during the presidencies of Hugo Chávez and Nicolás Maduro due to the Bolivarian Revolution." Suggestion: ...refers to the emigration of millions of Venezuelans from their native country because of the Bolivarian Revolution during the presidencies of Hugo Chávez and Nicolás Maduro. New - "It has caused a brain drain to affect the nation,..." (2nd para, last sentence) - Shouldn't it be It has caused a brain drain that affected the nation,...? Crisis in Venezuela - "Academics and business leaders have said that emigration from Venezuela increased significantly during the final years of Chávez's presidency, and, especially, during the presidency of Nicolás Maduro. Emigration increased dramatically during the crisis and..." <-- redundant, too many commas, and we don't use terms like "now" because there is no date reference. Suggestion: ...presidency, and especially during the presidency of Nicolás Maduro. Over time, the economic crisis brought dire consequences, including increased hunger throughout Venezuela which led to dramatic increases in emigration as lower-income Venezuelans, the very people Chávez promised to aid, began fleeing the country. New - Venezuelan men initially left their wives, children and elderly relatives behind as they fled the country, with mothers and children leaving to find their families later as they grew exacerbated with the crisis. Suggestion - something along the lines of: Venezuelan men initially left their families behind and fled the country (to find work so they could send money back home. The remittances weren't enough, and many of the poorest families fled the country, including women with children in tow to join their families.) May require citing better references. See section Peru - why the redlink tisana in the image caption?
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).	Needs fewer direct quotes, and inline citations for quotes that are kept.
	2c. it contains no original research.
	2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.	Earwig detected a 47.6% chance of copyvio, primarily statements in NYTimes article. Must be corrected before review can continue. Second check after fixes show 46.8%. Suggestions made in discussion section. Y
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.	There is a pending "split" that has not been resolved. Y
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
	7. Overall assessment.	Article passed the review. Congratulations! Atsme Talk 📧 22:45 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Discussion

ZiaLater, the copyvio issue needs your immediate attention. Thank you. ^Atsme _Talk 📧 11:48, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

@Atsme: Should be fixed now. Many of the potential copyvios were quotes, but I attributed them to The New York Times in a more proper manner. Let me know if you have further concerns.----ZiaLater (talk) 13:39, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Please see WP:INTEXT - you still have to cite the sources. According to Earwig, the majority of quotes are from the same source, and that's pushing the copyvio envelope. See the Earwig results, choose a couple you feel are most relevant. Also, you can't add to or alter a quote as you did when adding "[number]" to the quote. Instead of using so many direct quotes, use your own words with an inline citation and avoid close paraphrasing. Also, there's a "split" discussion still pending; therefore, the article cannot be reviewed until after those 2 major issues have been resolved. I'm going to put the review on hold for 7 days to give you a chance to resolve the split discussion and fix the copyvio issues and inline citations. ^Atsme _Talk 📧 14:45, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

@Atsme: Thanks for the details. I will take a look at what you said and make the necessary changes.----ZiaLater (talk) 10:18, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

@Atsme: Ok, the unnecessary quotes in the body were removed. The two remaining quotes are seen in quote boxes. Other potential copyvios flagged include "the Central University of Venezuela" and "the Dutch Caribbean Coast Guard", both of which are proper nouns. Let me know if there are additional concerns and thanks for helping with this process.----ZiaLater (talk) 10:36, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Apparently, a move is about to take place? ^Atsme _Talk 📧 17:05, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

@Atsme: The move was necessary due to the concern about the name. The "Bolivarian diaspora" was the term mainly used in the later years of the Chávez administration. The "crisis" is the wording used for the current event since there is not a specific naming designation. In short, the "Bolivarian diaspora" was the precursor to the current "crisis". Hope this clears it up.----ZiaLater (talk) 19:02, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

No problem. Still a bit of clean-up editing to be done - I see the name change happened. I'll give it a few more days. ^Atsme _Talk 📧 20:04, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

@Atsme: Any recommendations now that the split occurred?----ZiaLater (talk) 12:48, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi, ZiaLater - will get back on it soon, maybe even today...haven't forgotten - just giving things a little time to settle down. I've also been a bit preoccupied reading all the 'scurry' caused by recent developments.^Atsme _Talk 📧 13:07, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

ZiaLater, check the New segments in the prose section. Get those 2 issues fixed & I'll wrap it up. ^Atsme _Talk 📧 04:15, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

@Atsme: Alright, I have made the fixes. Let me know if you have any other concerns and thank you for your help!----ZiaLater (talk) 22:09, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

ZiaLater - I used the expand ref tool - consider using it in the future - it's awesome. Good job on the article - it is very informative. ^Atsme _Talk 📧 22:45, 7 July 2019 (UTC)