Talk:Bonner Springs, Kansas

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Coronado Section

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The Coronado section does not seem to have much basis in fact, at least in terms of what is currently there. The section begins by stating that Coronado spent the winter of 1541-1542 in the area of Bonner Springs. According to information in The Coronado Expedition 1540–1542 by George Parker Winship, Coronado was in Tiguex (modern-day New Mexico, along the Rio Grande) during this time, having returned in October of 1541. How, then, can the author of the source text claim to know how the party hunted and gathered food during this time, cutting holes in the ice for fish and receiving fruit and nuts from Native Americans? He also has very specific knowledge of the location of the party, claiming they followed the Missouri River north to Atchison before turning back, passing the Wyandotte village and camping in Bonner Springs, when just about every other source I can find makes no such claims on specific locations. The author's only works that I can find relate to the history of Wyandotte County, and thus I believe that he may have played fast and loose with this part of his book in an attempt to add a piece of history that may not have existed in the first place.

Coronado is generally believed, however, to have led an expedition into northeastern Kansas during the summer prior. The party's exact path is unknown due to the mapping methodology of the time, but educated guesses are made based off of descriptions given. It is somewhat unlikely that Coronado made it as far east as Atchison. Nor, for that matter, Bonner Springs. This is a decent map showing the probable route of Coronado during this time, created by a curator of the Kansas State Historical Society in 1912. I encourage the reader to also read pages 397-399 of my previous source for more information and interpretations of Coronado's route.

The claim that such an inscribed stone was found in Atchison is false, as I can find no such evidence anywhere. I've seen various claims made in history books from the 1890s through 1920s about a cross being erected with this exact text having been engraved at the northernmost point of their journey, possibly in some Quivira village. I believe that the cross's existence is likely true, but the asserted location is dubious.

I hope I'm not coming across as overly critical; I'm just attempting to dispel a myth that I don't believe belongs on this page, cited by a questionable source.

Chancelloriate (talk) 05:16, 14 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

There's a lot of bad history on this page. In addition to the Coronado problems mention above, Fort Leavenworth is considered the first permanent white settlement in Kansas by historians. The "Images of America" book series cited is a fairly commercial picture book not of academic quality. I have found many other errors in this series. The author likely just copied the error made in the older (ancient) cited source that also repeated discredited 19th century theories about Coronado. I'll correct these and find some better sources. Grey Wanderer (talk) 00:52, 25 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Form of government

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So it says in the infobox that Bonner Springs has a council-manager form of government but I was under the impression that it is part of the unified government since 1997. Theee consolidated governments are confusing. Bonner Springs is still a municipality right? Not just a neighborhood of the consolidated city/county. Does anybody know? Grey Wanderer (talk) 18:54, 1 March 2019 (UTC)Reply