Talk:Bootstrap Productions

Finding reliable sources for an article

Hi, Arianakrantzite! I'm very glad that you're not getting discouraged learning the ropes here at Wikipedia. I recommend that you want to read the reliable sources page to learn a bit about what's needed as an outside source for an article here. Articles at Wikipedia require reliable sources like a published book, newspaper, magazine, or something like that. While an unpublished letter is a good resource for some things, it's not acceptable for Wikipedia. We rely, here, on published sources. The problem with the Bootstrap article, as I see it, is that it relies pretty much entirely on first-person accounts like unpublished letters. If there's a newspaper article on the publishing house, or if there's a magazine interview with the founders, that would probably be a good place to start.

If you're gathering together the information about Bootstrap on your own, from primary sources (that is, from letters by and conversations with the people at Bootstrap), then that's probably original research, which is disallowed at Wikipedia.

If you're associated with Bootstrap, you will probably also want to read about Wikipedia's conflict of interest guidelines. If you have any further questions, you can ask them and I'll do my best to share my meager store of knowledge.  :) LastChanceToBe 02:57, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I looked things over. It looks like I will have to take a bunch out. I'll get back with you when I'm done. Thanks for working with me. User:Arianakrantzite 03:08, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Bootstrap article

I'm going through the links on the Bootstrap article, trying to make a version of it that has references (blog entries rarely count as reliable sources, unfortunately) and that only has information that's in those references. The links to blog posts by/about the writers, and to other poems by the writers, aren't really giving me much to go on, and mostly aren't reliable sources. Do you know of some sources for information about Bootstrap? LastChanceToBe 03:08, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

The Ron Silliman links are very important links. The other blogs, I may understand deleting. Silliman's blog, however, is probably the most widely read blog on poetry in North America right now. With those changes, there are still a few excellent reviews (rain taxi, Jacket Magazine, cross cultural poetics, etc.) which are very respectable journals, and I figure would be considered reliable sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arianakrantzite (talk • contribs)

The problem I see with those other blog links is that they don't actually give much information about Bootstrap. They're reviews of the authors, or other poems by them, which aren't going to help us with an encyclopedia article about Bootstrap itself. LastChanceToBe 03:33, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm getting a better handle on what you want. Let me know if the page is looking better. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arianakrantzite (talk • contribs)

I've put together a recommendation at User:LastChanceToBe/Bootstrap Productions. This is a copy of the article, not the article itself, so I didn't change anything in the real article. Please look this over. If the information in the article is correct (in other words, if I haven't introduced any incorrect statements), then I recommend that this should be the article. It still needs a reference for the paragraph that's marked as "citation needed", but that's something I'm sure you can find with some digging. Let me know what you think. Also, you probably want to sign your posts in this talk page with four tildes (~~~~) so we each know who said what... LastChanceToBe 04:00, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

PERFECT!!! Thanks so much. I really appreciate your time. I'll change it. Then to bed! Night!!Arianakrantzite 04:06, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Opps... Am I allowed to remove those ugly flags now?? I didn't want to get in trouble by removing without permission. Best, to you Arianakrantzite 04:13, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I've removed them. You can remove the flags yourself, too, without getting into trouble. LastChanceToBe 04:28, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

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