Talk:Borjgali

Borjgala redirect

There is currently a proposal to speedily delete the redirect Borjgala, per CSD R3 (a category involving "recently created redirects from implausible typos or misnomers"). To me, this deletion proposal seems on the surface to make sense; a Google search on "borjgala" returned 1,610 hits, compared with 133,000 for "borjgali". If there are solid reasons for keeping the "borjgala" redirect, I hope they will be explained ASAP. — Richwales 17:21, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Greetings Richwales. I agree Borjgali is mostly used but if it is possible it would be nice if Borjgala redirect will also stay. Is it that necessary to delete the redirect Borjgala? --GeorgianJorjadze (talk) 21:47, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

I have no problem with keeping the Borjgala redirect. The "speedy deletion" request for this redirect was declined by an administrator (not me) who felt it was a "plausible, useful redirect". And no one has proposed a discussion of the redirect via the more thorough WP:RFD process. So, for the time being at least, the redirect isn't going anywhere. — Richwales 23:03, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks my friend. Greetings. --GeorgianJorjadze (talk) 23:16, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

I understand. I had no permission from YouTube user. So you may remove the external link section. GeorgianJorjadze (talk) 20:54, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Accuracy

I already removed the 4th dimension stuff. I can't find any reliable sources for this. And how is this archaeologically distinguished from the similar Armenian symbol for eternity? Dougweller (talk) 15:42, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

You should have removed all of this drivel, as it didn't even pretend to be based on any kind of reference or source. It is apparently used as a national symbol of Georgia, and I have no doubt that all of these fantastical ideas are thrown around in the lunatic fringe of Georgian national mysticism, but they must still be referenced to actual secondary literature about Georgian national mysticism. --dab (𒁳) 08:18, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 09:32, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

The Borjgali is not a "Georgian symbol of national identity", is only 7-fold symbol of sun. This symbol similar to Armenian eternity sign, do not remove this reference from list "See also". Vahram Mekhitarian (talk) 07:10, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

There is a borjgali on a lot of dedabodzis (a major element of Georgian architecture), on the logotype for the Georgian National Museum, on a Georgian coin (and Banknote too), on Georgian Airways logo, it's a symbol of the georgian rugby team and a lot of other georgian national sport teams, it can even be considered as a main symbol of Georgian culture (etc... there are plenty of examples) So what do you mean by " The Borjgali is not a "Georgian symbol of national identity" " ?

In addition, there are many Borjgali represented with more or less than 7 branches. Moreover, one of the characteristics of the borjgali is that it can be declined in several ways. So what you say is wrong. It's not " only 7-fold symbol of sun " at all. Van Gogia (talk) 08:50, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Van Gogia, Your changed the definition of BORJGALI unreasonably and unnecessarily expanded its meaning and value: See difference between revisions. Your editions are not based on reliable sources, all editions are remove. Vahram Mekhitarian (talk)

Hello Vahram Mekhitarian,

1) You yourself provided me with a reference to source the changes in the article.

2) You don't respond to my post and you change the subject.

3) I owe you respect but you are not acting collaboratively and you are damaging an interesting topic by holding up frivolous theories. Who are you to do that?

4) The source you presented to me says exactly the opposite of what you said.

So please answer my previous question here and continue your embarrassing discussion below (I have copied the discussion below - if you allow me that - to give the full information to the readers).

Van Gogia (talk) 20:03, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Direction of pointing

Is there a reason why the image in the article points leftwards? On Georgian money and passports the points are rightwards. Does anyone know about how the symbol developed and which orientation it originally had? Or does it matter at all? 146.231.136.234 (talk) 19:05, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Vahram Mekhitarian 3RR

Hello Vahram Mekhitarian,
Please see the pictures in the following link showing some borjgalis :

• link 1

As you can see the borjgali is not always represented with seven rotating wings.

You can also see that pre-christian borjgalis are also often represented with seven rotating wings (top middle and bottom right) but not always (bottom left and bottom middle) :

on the left for example

Please see also these examples of borjgalis with more or less than 7 branches :

• link 1'
• link 2
• link 3
• link 4

So do not revert my contributions from Borjgali.

Thank you.
Van Gogia (talk) 20:23, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Borjgali is the name of only a sign with seven rotating wings.

https://www.behance.net/gallery/80748061/GEORGIAN-NATIONAL-MUSEUM

Vahram Mekhitarian (talk)

Vahram Mekhitarian, Is it a joke ?? I am not ridiculing, honestly. But Your are embarrassing yourself.

Please open your eyes :

• " Generally, borjgali is a seven-star symbol, which can be used to create various shapes and variations. "

It's in your link !

Please don't act as a vandal.
Van Gogia (talk) 08:29, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Vahram Mekhitarian, Please stop destroying my sourced work like a vandal.

Please stop destroying my sourced work like a vandal. You have not responded to any of my arguments and you keep repeating the same thing. Moreover, by providing me with references that go against what you say. I think this is a shameful attitude. I don't know what the administrators are waiting for to prevent such acts... --Van Gogia (talk) 18:30, 12 April 2021 (UTC)