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Requested move 14 February 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Sceptre (talk) 17:42, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

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• Bouncer (doorman) → Bouncer
• Bouncer → Bouncer (disambiguation)

– I believe that the job is the clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC by pageviews, as it gets about 350 more views a day than the next closest topic, Bouncer (cricket), and has over the long term. There is not really any other potential topic that comes close, as things entitled "The Bouncer" can be distinguished from it. In that case, the film and video game are competing topics, so The Bouncer should remain a redirect to the disambiguation page. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:38, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

• Opppose. The outgoing traffic from the dab page is mostly split between the doorman and The Bouncer (video game) [1]. Given that the game is over 20 years old (a time frame comparable to the period in which the term "bouncer" became popular [2]), I don't see any particular reason for treating the two topics as having different long-term significance. – Uanfala (talk) 13:24, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

  @Uanfala: I am not suggesting "The Bouncer" not be disambiguated. The version with "The" is still ambiguous. Also, the video game is clearly based off the name for the job. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:07, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

• Support In addition to the longterm significance, the video game always seems to be referred to as "The Bouncer" and users searching for Bouncer alone therefore are unlikely to be intending to end up on that page.--Yaksar (let's chat) 20:12, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

  There's no need to speculate about what readers want when searching when we already have the relevant data. See https://wikinav.toolforge.org/?language=en&title=Bouncer – the video game link on the dab page receives almost as many clicks as the link for the doorman. The traffic data doesn't account from where the readers arrived (whether they went directly to Doorman or the used the redirect The Doorman), but you can infer some upper and lower bounds from the relevant pageviews [3]. The most important bit of information is that significantly less than half of the readers who arrive on the dab page follow the link for the doorman. – Uanfala (talk) 21:40, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

  Again, we're simply talking about moving the dab page away from "Bouncer", not about targeting "The Bouncer" there as well. It's unlikely that when people type "Bouncer", full stop, into the search, they are looking for the video game. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 10:48, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

  I'm finding it increasingly incomprehensible why you all continue making claims that are plainly contradicted by the data presented so far. From the links above: for the month of January, the views for Bouncer (that exact title, excludes views coming from redirects like The Bouncer) were 290. For the same period, the link on the dab page going to Bouncer (doorman) was clicked 87 times. – Uanfala (talk) 13:24, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

  Just to clarify: if your argument is to disregard usage altogether, count only long-term significance and exclude the game per WP:SMALLDIFFS, then that's a valid argument to make (one that I disagree with, but still a valid one). – Uanfala (talk) 13:58, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

• Support as the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Rreagan007 (talk) 01:34, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 22:11, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support. Very obvious primary topic. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:33, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support per nom. The occupation is the primary topic. LSGH (talk) (contributions) 04:09, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Bouncers hospitals.

Bouncers are often employed by hospitals for controlling unruly attendants and bystanders of patients trying to disrupt working and for safety of doctors. 116.68.75.15 (talk) 08:53, 11 May 2023 (UTC)