Talk:Bowling ball

Content fix

This article needs to be edited. The fourth paragraph makes no sense and has apparently been tampered with. It reads, "Inside the ball is a your mom which makes both balls do something different. These cores are dynamically imbalanced to cause the ball to try to stabilize as it is rolling down the lane."

Somebody evidently inserted the text "your mom" but I don't know how to correct the sentence because it looks like more words are missing. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lowendfish (talk • contribs) 15:43, 25 April 2007 (UTC).

Thanks for pointing it out. I've fixed it. Madmaxmarchhare 16:02, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

The image of the reactive balls (Zone) is also incorrect. The pictured balls feature plastic coverstocks, not reactive resin.

Sorry, those are MINE and the are most certainly reactive resin bowling balls. You might be thinking of the "target Zone," which looks similar, and are made of polyester. But, the ones are Sapphire Zone and ARE reactive resin, without a doubt. Madmaxmarchhare 18:35, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

My mistake. A local bowling alley uses Target Zone (same logo) for house balls, and the similarity just confused me.

Heck, the first time I saw those, it confused me as well. They should have done something different, probably.. Madmaxmarchhare 05:00, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

There was some text that, the way it was worded, seemed insulting to those who chose to use lighter balls. The text formerly read - in part - "children and/or weaklings, and women." The current text I feel reads much better and removes the derogatory nature of the previous wording. Alex (talk) 02:11, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Duck Pins

The article needs to mention duck pin bowling balls. Mikevegas40 20:41, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Sounds good, Mike. I'll be looking for your edits soon, then? Madmaxmarchhare 03:20, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I noted that on the main article, that the word sport was in quotes. It felt like it was attempting to say something about the status of Bowling as not a real sport of some such thing. Would someone please review that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.236.133.138 (talk) 16:09, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

more pictures

i was thinking if there were more pictures of different types of balls like 5 pin, duck pin, candle pin, nine pin coolguy12333 16:26, 15 August 2008

so much garbage here

i don't know much about bowling balls but i'm not going to learn it here.

" It probably goes without saying why bowlers often wipe oil off the ball."

what kind of crap is that?

the whole article is filled with these sorts of gems.— Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎ 69.181.168.139 (talk • contribs) 00:03, June 26, 2012

I agree. I started looking to narrow it down to specific things, but between the lack of citations, writing style, and overall organization, I'm tagging the Ten-pin balls section Cleanup-rewrite. IanH84 (talk) 18:44, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Size comparison

This article has photos, sure, but what it really needs is a photo of a ball next to some familiar object for size comparison. Something universal, not country specific. Playing card? Hammer? Akld guy (talk) 07:06, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

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Misleading Content Tag for Composition Section

I wasnt sure to use misleading content or original research (as their are no citations), but I'll leave it as misleading content. I am not sure who wrote this, but there are several blatant factual errors and the writer does not seem to have a grasp of engineering concepts. For example, there seems to be confusion between the terms hardness and friction. Secondly, adding methyl ethyl ketone to a plastic will degrade and dissolve it. It will also etch the surface creating more surface irregularities, so who is to say any effect is from changes in friction, or changes in hardness? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 163.118.206.27 (talk) 22:38, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Planning: substantial deletions and revisions

I've recently added substantive content, carefully sourced, to the relatively new section, Effect of ball structure and composition on motion. Now through early 2019, I plan to delete much of the previous content that is duplicative of what I have added, or that is unsourced, or that appears to be dead wrong based on my reading of reliable sources. If you have thoughts, suggestions or comments, enter them below. Otherwise, I'll proceed. —RCraig09 (talk) 05:47, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

In planning future edits, consider the current article might be difficult to follow for non-bowlers. I hope future edits will make it easier. SlowJog (talk) 13:17, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

The article reflects the fact that bowling balls are much more complex than non-bowlers recognize. Specifically to make the material easier for all to understand, I created diagrams (images and charts) that illustrate the various concepts that are presented by reliable sources, and organized them by topic. This leaves the question: Which new content about bowling balls would be of interest to non-bowlers? —RCraig09 (talk) 15:15, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

My suggestion is to make it easier for non-bowlers to understand terms used. For example,

"A ball's drilling layout refers to how and where holes are drilled, in relation to the ball's locator pin and mass bias (MB) marker.[5][7] Layout is determined with reference to each bowler's positive axis point (PAP; the pocket end of the ball's initial axis of rotation).[8] "Pin down" layouts place the pin between the finger holes and the thumb hole, while "pin up" layouts place the pin further from thumb hole than the finger holes.[7][9]"

Reading that, I'm going "Huh? What?" I have no idea what a "locator pin", "positive axis point", or "mass bias marker" is. This article looks like it was written to be read by bowlers, with little thought how non-bowlers might read it. SlowJog (talk) 16:39, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Granted, the terms are technical—necessarily so, because drilling layouts are technical (even more so than is evident from this introductory article: that's why it takes a good pro shop operator to drill a ball right). In any event, "pin" is shown in some of the images to the right, and the terms "PAP", "pin up" and "pin down" are explained in the very text in the quoted paragraph. Also, there is a Glossary of bowling article to which I've added some internal links, and serious readers can read the cited references. Bottom line: modern bowling balls are technologically complex. —RCraig09 (talk) 18:28, 14 May 2019 (UTC)