Talk:Boyinaband

Removal of allegation edits?

A few edits have went through that outlined the existence of the allegations against David.They were deleted because Reddit posts are not reliable sources (which I agree with) but I think these are important things that need to be outlined so I will open this talk thread for someone to let me know how to properly add these topics to the article. Ronsiv8 (talk) 17:43, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Unless a WP:BLPRS discusses the allegations, nothing can or should be added to the article. A quick search didn't show anything that meets the criteria needed, especially for serious allegations. Cerebral726 (talk) 20:32, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

But at the very least could we acknowledge that it happened? This is a pretty serious development that caused a pretty big splash in his community. Thetreehuggingjersey (talk) 00:55, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

@Thetreehuggingjersey: if this is a truly serious development then you will be able to find a reliable source for it. I started a discussion last year about Know Your Meme for sourcing this very information and the consensus was a resounding no (see Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_390#Know_Your_Meme). Mbdfar (talk) 01:21, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Exactly. It doesn't matter what us editors deem important about a subject, it only matters if that content is published in a reliable source. Reddit controversies and the like are best left on his Wikitubia article. Mbdfar (talk) 03:09, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

• The Verge article (Verge is listed at WP:RSP [1]) found by @FlyingWaterBru: seems like it could be used to address the controversy. Any objections? Mbdfar (talk)

  Verge is reliable as an institution, but their mention of BIAB in this context is only to restate the various Reddit threads that got this whole thing kicked off. They have done no independent verification as to whether these claims are true, and thus do not lend their institutional reliability to the information. Primefac (talk) 06:46, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

  @Primefac: I'm inclined to disagree. It's not up to the publication to verify whether the claims are true, just that it's true that there are claims. That's an important distinction. A reliable institution calling the allegations one of the "top YouTube scandals" is evidence that the event was significant. I think the information could be tactfully added to the article taking into consideration WP:UNDUE and WP:IMPARTIAL. I would suggest something to the effect of: "In August 2022, Brown was accused of sexual misconduct in a Reddit post that was allegedly authored by a group of his former romantic partners. Brown has not publicly acknowledged the allegations." 00:22, 29 April 2023 (UTC)Mbdfar (talk)

  Well, it does turn out that I mistook Verge Magazine as The Verge, so my reponse does hinge on whether Verge Magazine meets reliability standards. I apologize for the confusion. Mbdfar (talk) 00:31, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

  It is true that allegations made in unreliable sources may be picked up by the mainstream media and by extension become reliable, or at the very least the allegations become reliable. However, per WP:PUBLICFIGURE, we are not yet at that point; we have one source that has picked up on the Reddit threads, so we're really only meeting the first point of noteworthy, relevant, and well documented. Primefac (talk) 06:03, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

  I am aware I’m a bit late but I guess that could spark debate about the degree that Wikipedia could be spreading allegations that aren’t even necessarily true. Is it possible to acknowledge that the allegations were made without addressing the validity of the statements? It, without a doubt, meets the notability criteria but there’s just so little information that I’d feel comfortable referencing. Thetreehuggingjersey (talk) 19:43, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 March 2023

The dates of his career are wrong. It should read 2007 to 2022 Myusernameher (talk) 10:00, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Primefac (talk) 10:11, 14 March 2023 (UTC)