Talk:Brčko/Archive 1

Latest comment: 11 years ago by Joy in topic pointless disambiguation
Archive 1Archive 2

Brcko city web portal

http://www.brcko.co.ba

Goran Jelisic

Muhamed Mesic, on the Goran Jelisic page you claim that he was born in Bijeljina, on this page you claim that he was the town's (Brcko's) most famous resident.

Make up your mind if you want to be taken seriously.

--Igor

  • Albeit you have the most beautiful of names (as it's also my brother's, I happen to know it means warrior of peace), someone being born somewhere doesn't imply that he must live there. Jelisic was born in Bijeljina, but spent all his life living in Brcko. I for one was born in Niksic, but happen to live in Tuzla. Muhamedmesic 07:33, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Regarding the Brcko District

The claim that the Brcko District is not part of either the Federation or Republika Srpska might de facto be true (that is how things are run on the ground), but de iure it is false. If the Brcko District is not part of either entity, this would imply that the District is in fact the third entity. This would be a major breach of the general framework of the Dayton peace agreement (and the constitution of Bosnia-Herzegovina), which states that the country is internally composed of only two entities. Also, the Brcko District as 'not part of either entity' would make the territorial formula agreed at Dayton (49% of Bosnia-Herzegovina as Republika Srpska, 51% as the Federation) unworkable. OHR, Office of the High Representative (http://www.ohr.int), provided a clarification on the status of the Brcko District, stating that the District is in fact a condominium of both entities. This means that the territory of the District is shared by both entities, although the entities exercise no executive power there. In other words, the Brcko District territory is both Republika Srpska and the Federation. Technically, this would apply to the whole territory of the District - in that way, there is no third entity, and 49-51% formula is (somehow) preserved. That said, it should be pointed out that the Brcko District was proclaimed on the whole territory of the prewar Brcko municipality. According to the Dayton map, 42% of the prewar Brcko municipality (including the town of Brcko) ended up in the Republika Srpska, while 58% of the prewar Brcko municipality ended up in the Federation. Although the Brcko District was proclaimed in 1999, IEBL (Inter Entity Boundary Line) within its territory was never officially abolished; IEBL plays no administrative function within the District, except to mark the line beyond which the Bosnian Serb Army (Vojska Republike Srpske) traveling through the District can not go (and vice versa for the Federation Army). Thus, it remains unclear how the entities hold the condominium over the whole District if the IEBL still exists on the books, and the District was created out of uneven chunks of both entity's territory. Given the fact that the Republika Srpska never officially accepted the arbitration result (one of the reasons IEBL was never officially abolished), the only solution is to show the Republika Srpska territory within the Brcko District (42% of it) on the Republika Srpska entity map, but color it differently, and the same formula should be used vis-à-vis the Federation territory within the Brcko District (58% of it) on the Federation entity map. When you put all of this together, you have a map of Bosnia-Herzegovina showing only two entities but also acknowledging the existence of the Brcko District - the neutral position.

p.s.

The 'condominium' idea or the Brcko District is demonstrated by the way in which people declare themselves within the District. Citizens of the District have a right to hold entity citizenship of either Republika Srpska or the Federation, and have the right to vote on their entity's elections, although they are banned from serving in either entity's army.

population, Dayton

This page is, to some extent, overtly serbo-phone point-of-view. Please backup your claim on the following points, with REPUTABLE SOURCES OF EVIDENCE, on :

1. Current Population of the district

2. Volation of Dayton Agreement arised from the creation of international intervention of the Brcko district

Otherwise, these claims are just mere opinions not facts.

-- 202.156.2.91, 21:22, 11 Mar 2005

NASTANAK GRADA BRČKO

  • MUSLIMANSKI NAROD je ustvari i stvorio sam grad Brčko,

prije 690 godina,tačnije 1314 godne,nekoliko muslimanskih porodica se doselilo uz plodnu obalu rijeke Save u nadi za boljim zivotom. Jedno od prvih prezimena koja su dosla u tad jos ne postojeci grad Brčko bilo je prezime Ćumurović (to prezime danas nastanjuje podrucje Mujkića).

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.200.139.249 (talk) 22 September 2006‎

pointless disambiguation

This 2005 edit by PANONIAN (talk · contribs) said separated articles about district and city but it didn't explain the reason for full disambiguation. AFAICT Brčko (town) is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. In fact, I don't think anyone really says "Brčko" and means the district; whoever wants to refer to the district, by and large actually mentions that. Does anyone disagree? --Joy [shallot] (talk) 14:48, 10 December 2012 (UTC)