Talk:Breadfruit

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Request for clarification

What does this mean? The large, thick leaves are, on the same tree, almost entire to deeply cut into pinnate lobes.

Hmm. Not sure. I think the “on the same tree” part is superfluous. I'll edit it to read “The large and thick leaves are deeply cut into pinnate lobes.”. — Jéioosh 05:08, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Your edit survived to this day, but it doesn't tell the truth: the "on the same tree" part is not superfluous, as each tree bears different forms of leaves: entire leaves (that is, with almost continuous edge), more or less cut leaves, and some very deeply cut leaves.
See http://twrediscovered.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/bread-fruit-tree-leaves-close-up.jpg

Maybe a better wording could be "The edges of the large, thick leaves are, on the same tree, almost entire, light cut, or deeply cut into pinnate lobes" or something like that, but I'm not a native speaker and I'll wait a few days before I'll make this edit. 194.174.73.33 (talk) 15:38, 2 January 2014 (UTC) Marco Pagliero Berlin

Done 194.174.73.80 (talk) 18:49, 20 January 2017 (UTC) Marco Pagliero Berlin

Caribbean

A Spanish article would be kinda nice,since it is a staple food in alot of the Spanish speaking islands in the caribbean. all I know that it's called panapen in Spanish

20,000 Leagues Under the Sea

Should we slip in some sort of mention of it appearing in Jules Verne's book? AllStarZ 04:45, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

There could be a “Trivia” section as with many other articles. Stick it there in a bullet point. — Jéioosh 22:16, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Racism

"It was first collected and distributed by Lieutenant William Bligh "

Huh? I'm sure other people have collected the fruit before him! Maybe he was the first white person to collect it. Can somebody knowledgable about the subject matter rewrite that part?--Sonjaaa 19:56, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

When they say that it was first collected and distributed, they're talking about in the West. Obviously, the natives collected and distributed it before him. ForestAngel (talk) 21:16, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree that the implication that Bligh was first to collect and distribute breadfruit has racist undertones(not to mention that it is incorrect), particularly due to the frequency with which indigenous knowledge and contribution is subsumed, claimed and extinguished as 'indigenous' by ruling colonial powers. It is my fairly educated understanding that breadfruit originated in Papua New Guinea, it was one of the 'canoe crops' that Polynesians brought with them on migratory voyages/explorations as they moved east populating islands throughout the Pacific. I will try to add a well-cited addition or edit asap. Simont43 (talk) 02:57, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Leaves

Can the leaves be used to prepare an herbal tea? A friend says that this is done in Vietnam. Badagnani 02:56, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Origins of the term

Why isn't there a section on why it's called a "breadfruit"? Is it because it's starchy, or what? ForestAngel (talk) 21:17, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

I believe so. It is a novel, but South Sea Tales by Jack London discusses breadfruit a bit if you're interested. I think it is used as a bread substitute... I think I've read elsewhere that it can be microwaved much like a baked potato. But I have no personal experience with the fruit.--Jp07 (talk) 04:40, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure why it is called breadfruit but when cooked it does have the same texture and flavor of sweet bread. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.216.214.108 (talk) 00:45, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Maybe because bread is usally a staple food and breadfruit was used as a staple food? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.216.214.108 (talk) 00:47, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Is it any good?

How does it taste? Do I want to eat it or is it best left in the Pacific? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.215.220.184 (talk) 10:54, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Well slaves refused to eat it. Draw your own conclusion.Eregli bob (talk) 14:46, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Can't beat the taste of fried chicken :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.82.92.78 (talk) 17:01, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Is it popular anywhere anymore? Could I find it in a supermarket in Hawaii or Puerto Rico? I've talked about their food with Hawaiians and Puerto Ricans, but they've never mentioned it. I was reading the article to look for some sentence such as "it has decreased in popularity" or somesuch, but found none. I think the article is missing a section about its declining/continued popularity, such as the statement above, "slaves refused to eat it", if it can be cited, and about whether modern cusines use it anymore or if it's popular anymore and where. Chrisrus (talk) 23:53, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

It is quite popular in Papua New Guinea and other Pacific Islands. It can be baked in an earth oven, or sliced and fried in oil. I enjoyed eating it there. The taste improves with a little salt (so do potato chips/fries!). Ptilinopus (talk) 08:28, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

It's bland, but that just means it takes on other flavors well. Cooked with something like coconut cream, it's very good. Chuck Entz (talk) 01:16, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

This pattern is consistent with many other bland foods like taro, potato, cassava, plantains etc. It seems clear that they frequently began as famine foods and only became popular once the cuisine caught up. I reckon that if slaves were offered raw potatoes, they might baulk at them too. I certainly would! But I don't mind crisps or mash etc. If a real chef with plenty of country-food experience were let loose on breadfruit, then very likely it would be possible to make it popular as well. I wonder about its value as fodder; any ideas? JonRichfield (talk) 13:04, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Can ripe breadfruit be eaten raw? How can you tell when it is ripe? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.239.87.245 (talk) 02:07, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Vitamin C

Currently the article states that breadfruit contains "an average amount of vitamin C (20mg/100g)". Does this refer to the fruit's average content of the vitamin, or is it a poorly phrased way of saying that the content is middling compared to other fruits? Somebody who knows, please re-phrase this. Martin Rundkvist (talk) 20:44, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

The issue isn't how it's worded, the issue is how it's being read.. for every 100 grams of fruit, there's 20 mg of Vitamin C.. 76.20.187.146 (talk) 16:59, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

I don't understand "the cooked fruit, which has a potato-like flavor, similar to fresh-baked bread"

To me, fresh-baked bread doesn't taste much like potato. Which does it taste like - potato or fresh-baked bread? They are different. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.0.103.34 (talk) 22:17, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

This confuses me, too. I think perhaps the phrase "the texture of the cooked fruit, which has a potato-like flavor, similar to fresh-baked bread" is trying to say that the *texture* is similar to freshly-baked bread, and also it *tastes* like potato; but the order of the words obscures the meaning. It would be good if Someone Who Knows About Breadfruit could clarify the wording. 132.244.72.6 (talk) 14:49, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

It has little taste if baked alone. Baked potato texture, but definitely not fresh bread taste. It's very filling. I can see why it's a tropical staple. You could make bread from it, like you can make bread from cassava, plantain or potato starch. I live and work with many Jamaicans. It's the food of the poor there, but you can't live on it alone. One fourth of an average breadfruit is enough for a meal. Many Jamaicans bake it then add salt before eating. That and the salted cod fish they eat won't help your blood pressure. 108.132.96.109 (talk) 01:57, 11 August 2012 (UTC)David

About the flower of breadfruit

Can somebody find the photos about the flower(s) for breadfruit? I have found the Wikimedia Commons. There have no photo about the flower for breadfruit. Can someone take the photo about the flower for breadfruit please? --WKDx417 (talk) 02:40, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Moving second para of lede into History section

They both refer to history, one is the native prehistory and the other is the recorded western history. They belong in the same section; what do you think? Kortoso (talk) 20:42, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Hawaiian breadfruit quilt pattern

I am just about to add a brief mention of the Hawaiian breadfruit quilt pattern to the culture section of the article. This is what it looks like:

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If any fairy happening by were to add an image to the article, that would be great. Cheers, Awien (talk) 18:10, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

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"Because breadfruit trees usually produce large crops at certain times of the year..."

I hope that statement means something to someone. It tells me exactly nothing. Come on editors! 98.194.39.86 (talk) 21:29, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Logan Motas's Review

First, what does the article do well? Is there anything from your review that impressed you? Any turn of phrase that described the subject in a clear way? I really enjoy that you included the nutritional value of breadfruit, especially because there's people who believe that breadfruit could change the world by becoming the next staple. I'm also glad that you listed what it tastes like, because that's something that I got commented on a lot in my talk section of my own article about. It's hard to describe flavor, but you did a really good job. It's obvious that a person with a background in plants wrote this article because there's a section on propagation, which is really useful! What changes would you suggest the author apply to the article? Why would those changes be an improvement? As for improvements, I'd want to know more about the habitat. There's a bunch of information on its origin and I think some of that information should be included in the habitat portion of the article. It may seem redundant, but I know some people just go to articles and then jump to exactly what they're looking for. What's the most important thing the author could do to improve the article? Add citations to the section on Food!

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Request for clarification

I don't understand this sentence from the second paragraph of the description section

"The compound, false fruit develops from the swollen perianth, and originates from 1,500-2,000 flowers visible on the skin of the fruit as hexagon-like disks." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:147:300:627B:ADAF:8350:D38:B877 (talk) 02:58, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

"highest-yielding food plants" nonsense phrase

If you search for "highest-yielding food plants", the nonsense articles list lettuce, tomato, cucumber... low calorie foods. Whats important is kilocalories not volume/water weight.

http://www.fao.org/docrep/t0207e/T0207E04.htm https://www.mathscinotes.com/2017/01/calorie-per-acre-improvements-in-staple-crops-over-time/ https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/8/3/034015 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:CDA0:1060:3414:1915:F2C2:72D8 (talk) 03:56, 23 February 2022 (UTC)