Talk:Breast Cancer Show Ever

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Stop putting in all these stupid references. Like the Breakfast club one? Thats ridiculous —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.27.104.248 (talk) 20:30, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

I got the reference. It seemed rather obvious. - 99.237.18.45 (talk) 19:22, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Who deleted all of the informaton slowly being added? I understand deleting the discussion... but the accurate information I don't understand. 76.185.62.164 (talk) 02:21, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

It's information being added poorly and with lots of spelling errors and typos. A proper summary needs to be written. FironDraak (talk) 02:32, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

I wonder how they think up to use "breast" to imitate "best". Although I don't think Trey and Matt are sensitive enough to know what's happening in Hong Kong, I can't stop considering this possibility. -- Patrickov (talk) 03:01, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Trey and Matt, sensitive? But I don't get what you mean with Gary Chan. His page is rather short. What do you suggest he has to do with this? - Redmess (talk) 10:49, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

The last line on that page says:

Chan was admonished by "Long Hair" Leung Kwok-hung for his poor English - he is quoted as saying during his acceptance speech that the party would "try our breast not to just criticize the government policy".[5]

--151.203.73.72 (talk) 20:33, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

That would then depend on media coverage, and whether Matt and Trey were paying attention. But since we don't have a source, it will only be speculation for now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Redmess (talk • contribs) 11:21, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Whats with that reference to Craig it doesnt make any sense —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.59.255.224 (talk) 12:10, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Older episode articles

Hey you guys, you're always quick to add information about the new episodes, but those from the first seasons don't contain a lot of information, even though I often see references to movies like E.T., space odyssay, etc... in those, they aren't added to references, while for new south park episodes those are already added on wikipedia the day they're aired! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.83.40.233 (talk) 11:38, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

They think that it's Somebody Else's Problem. Of course, I've been meaning to do more around this place for a long time, so I'll probably end up doing a few if I get some more time.Nektig (talk) 12:51, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Doing what exactly? I removed some uncited "trivia" from this article today, I'll scrub anything else that you or other users try to add. Ok? Alastairward (talk) 23:03, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

It's because some people don't think it's appropriate to have a lot of "trivia" in Wikipedia. They're called deletionists, and they are slowly making Wikipedia useless. The only reason you see info about new episodes is that it hasn't been deleted by the time you view the page. It's one of the reasons I refuse to donate money to the project and will no longer contribute edits. Consider yourself lucky you got this response, if they don't delete it. -- 66.15.179.19 (talk) 00:11, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Snatch Reference

Thought I'd see if anybody else reckoned there's a reference to the film Snatch in the way that the playground fight scene parodies the final boxing match in the film. Don't know if you bother including in the article the different references made in the episode but it seemed relevant to me. The music is sort of like that used in Snatch (Fuckin' in the Bushes, by Oasis) and all you would need would be to add the quote 'Now, we are fucked' into the freeze frame part when Cartman gets floored and it would be exactly the same. Rudy 00:10, 23 October 2008 (UTC) If you were to do that I would remove it from the article page as soon as I saw it. That's some pretty sloppy referencing, read up on wikipedia policy before suggesting such again. Alastairward (talk) 08:35, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

It was blatantly a reference to Snatch at the end of the episode, as to how you'd put that on the page though convincingly I've no idea. --Simonski (talk) 16:54, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Pretty simple, find a reliable verifiable source that says "The creators of South Park intended that to be an homage to Snatch." Alastairward (talk) 18:01, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

It is fairly blatant, right down to the 'Fuckin' in the Bushes'-style music. Not quite the same ending though. Should've parodied this bit - [1] 81.96.248.32 (talk) 21:02, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

I wouldn't bother dealing with this Alastairward guy- he knows Wiki policy but not the TV Project policy. Ignore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.232.166.37 (talk) 02:08, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

For what it's worth this TV club review on the Onion mentions several references, I guess it could be used as a source. http://www.avclub.com/content/tvclub/south_park/the_breast_cancer Timber Rattlesnake (talk) 04:22, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Everybody's pissed off about Alastairward's edits to SP articles, when he is clearly violating his (blindly linked to) Wikipedia Policy by removing cited sections regarding cultural references, and not accepting an actual TV episode (or link to) as a valid reference FOR plot and/or cultural references. As one user said: If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, sounds like a duck and acts like a duck, its not a duck until Matt Stone and Trey Parker say it is, although everyone knows it. An admin recently stepped in and told him to knock it off regarding one of these controversial edits to a newer episode article, yet he continues to ignorantly edit, citing Wikipedia policy which is apparently unread by him. Leave a comment on his talk page (as many other have done, some nicer about it than others), and that will get more admin attention and put a stop to the edit wars, rule violation, and improve Wikipedia. Anthony cargile (talk) 22:15, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Anthony, if you look below, you'll see that Aspiring chemist used the time that you spent ranting, stalking me, being abusive and nonsensical, to come up with a thoroughly decent cite for this article (which you'll see I've added!) Don't you think you could spend your time more appropriately too? You're getting quite worked up about Admin action, why don't you report me then? In all the time I've spent removing OR from wikipedia articles, only once has an Admin suggested that a reference should stay. Just once. Think about that, ok? Alastairward (talk) 23:03, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for suggesting what I should think about, but I'd rather ponder whether or not you have any friends, Alastairward. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.252.36.151 (talk) 16:58, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Please people, assume good faith, I mean we are all south park fans here right? If you aren't a south park fan maybe this isnt your expertise. My point is, lets just try and work together here.-Aspiring chemist (talk) 00:56, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Way! So Snatch did get a reference then. Lol, when Alastairward told me it was rubbish I thought I had dreamt the similarities. You were a bit quick to condemn without considering it but I understand though, when you spend hours working on a page for someone to come along and add a pointless bit of trivia it does get really annoying. Anyway, I’m glad it got sorted out properly. Rudy 17:35, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

I didn't say there weren't similarities, just that suggesting they look alike and then adding that to the article wouldn't be verifiable. I've added a lot to the cultural references sections in South Park articles, if you'd care to browse their edit histories. Alastairward (talk) 00:55, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh right, I get you now, thought when you said 'That's some pretty sloppy referencing' that you meant it was a bad reference, rather than the fact that I hadn't bothered to provide a cite. I have to admit though, I totally agree with the way you handle trivia edits. People get annoyed because they think they're right, but I just took a look at the Night of the Living Homeless discussion page and 90% of it is people wanting to add rubbish references. One guy actually suggested that when someone in the episode used the phrase 'see what makes them tick' it was a reference to an episode of Heros. I mean come on, how stupid can you be? There sould be a way of lobbying to get a proper definition of what a cultural reference in media is, would help a lot especially with South Park since there are so many cultural reference as well as the fact that everybody thinks everything is a reference to something.Rudy 17:32, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Discuss all cultural references here

Provide cites or other discussions for the below and more;

• The fight scene bears heavy resemblance to scenes in the film Snatch
• After the fight, Wendy sits on the ground with her back facing the viewer. And with an unconscious Cartman lying next to her, she yells: 'I'm finished!'. This refers to the film There Will Be Blood.

Alastairward (talk) 19:20, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

• From the southpark faq:

Thursday, October 23rd, 2008
Are the events in "Breast Cancer Show Ever" loosely related to the movie "3 O'Clock High"?
Yes, good eye. There's a bit of "Snatch" in there too.[2]

Although I have not seen 3 O'clock High, this reference provides confirmation that the movie is parodied in the episode...along with snatch

Aspiring chemist (talk) 23:33, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Seems to be, good catch. Alastairward (talk) 13:39, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

No reasons are given why the 3 O'Clock High reference wasn't put in the article (just saw the movie- this episode is undoubtedly similar), so I added it. --Corneliusm (talk) 22:30, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Plot Summary

I significantly reduced the plot summary (from nearly 800 words to just under 600) and tried to grammatically clean it up. Also, maybe the lead could be expanded just a little. I know it's an episode article, but maybe it could be included that it is the 9th episode of the season (even though it's stated that it is episode 1209), or that it is the second episode of the current run (mid season of season 12).

If you feel the revised plot summary doesn't do enough justice to the article, go ahead and revert it, slim it down further, or rewrite it completely. I'm somewhat new to writing/editing articles and I'm open to ideas for improvements.

Aspiring chemist (talk) 23:28, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Also, if you folks feel the slimming down of the plot summary was adequate, go ahead and remove the cleanup template...I'm not going to do it myself, I'd rather see some peer review and consensus first.-Aspiring chemist (talk) 01:38, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Title

The episode's title definitely comes from The Best Cancer Show Ever, but i'm not sure how to word that and where to place it. OVERTWITCH~Your Favourite Nerdy, Glasses Wearing, Hyperactive, little Asian

What exactly is the best cancer show ever?

can you fill me in on this reference?-Aspiring chemist (talk) 22:15, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Google threw up only six hits in relation to "Best Cancer Show Ever", they all seem to be misspellings of the episode title. Alastairward (talk) 22:53, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

I think it's a parody of the term 'Best Show Ever' with Breast added to replace 'Best' and Cancer, just so it makes sense. --67.162.31.148 (talk) 01:07, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

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