Talk:Brendon Urie/Archive 2

Archive 1

Archive 2

Controversy section

Shouldn't there be a controversy section? The man compared HRT to blackface. I think there was more I can't recall rn, should we add that section? 64.189.135.85 (talk) 15:03, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

There's quite a bit that could be added to a controversy section. If someone is using wikipedia to learn about this man, they should be aware of the documented controversies as well as the unaddressed SA allegations made against him. 2600:740A:3:432:ED17:1F44:A96A:FF52 (talk) 05:31, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

I don't know about that first point (you'd need a source) but you definitely can't accuse him of a crime that he hasn't been convicted of. TheGlitterNetwork (talk) 20:39, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

Completely oppose. He was comparing identifying with the opposite race with identifying with the opposite sex, a valid opinion isn't invalid because it offends some people. SweetTaylorJames (talk) 06:24, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

I am not very familiar with this subject, so I won't comment on whether this material should be included somewhere in the article or not. Reliably sourced controversies are often included in biographies with WP:DUE weight when necessary. However, an entire section dedicated solely to controversies is highly discouraged, per WP:CSECTION.LM2000 (talk) 07:41, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

Years active

Just because Panic! at the Disco is discontinued doesn't mean Brendon's career is either. 96.227.141.216 (talk) 00:24, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

There's no known activity in terms of his music career currently. 142.186.88.120 (talk) 23:53, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, well, the last thing I want is for him to retire from music altogether. I know he needs to focus on his family and all, but still. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.227.141.216 (talk) 01:48, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Definitely, well if for example if he returns to music in 2025, the bio will read 2004-2023; 2025-present. 142.186.88.120 (talk) 00:01, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

All we know is that Panic has disbanded. Saying he wants to focus on his personal life doesn't confirm that he's permanently left the spotlight. Even as Urie was effectively the only member of the band left, he continued to do other side projects.[1]

For all we know, he could announce something later this year. If we have reliable sources which confirm that he is, without any doubt, retired, then the years active could change. As of now, there's nothing concrete. Clear Looking Glass (talk) 22:52, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 August 2023

Change "Urie has repeatedly been accused—in 2009, 2011, and 2015—of having inappropriately touched, groped and otherwise sexually harassed multiple people. In 2020, the Twitter hashtag #BrendonUrieSpeakUp was used as individuals shared allegations against Urie, including of racist and transphobic remarks. He also was recorded joking about committing rape while on stage." in "Urie has repeatedly been accused—in 2011 and 2015—of having inappropriately touched, groped and otherwise sexually harassed multiple people, accusations that have been proven false. In 2020, the Twitter hashtag #BrendonUrieSpeakUp was used as individuals shared allegations against Urie, including of racist and transphobic remarks. He also was recorded joking about committing rape while on stage. All these behaviours were acknowledged by the singer, who explicitly apologized for them." Lety.it.be (talk) 16:55, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Edward-Woodrow :) _[talk] 20:33, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

The information about Brendon Urie being innocent were mainly spread through Twitter and Instagram, mainly like the allegation that have been deliberately used by online newspapers without proper checking. Thou, here is some proof they weren't reliable.

I demand this passage to be removed, for it is defaming.[2] Lety.it.be (talk) 20:09, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Removed this paragraph completely Green Needle (talk) 17:19, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

The accusations have been proven false by many profiles on the internet and Urie himself denied them.

He was accused of sexually harassing a girl in the backstage in Cleveland in 2011. There is a post online that proves that Urie wasn't present in backstage in Cleveland, since his ankle was broken and he was taken away by the ambulance.

Also, both the accusations were later retracted by the person who has made them, who wrote a tweet admitting they were false[3] Lety.it.be (talk) 13:51, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

This paragraph is slanderous and defaming. The allegations were admitted made up by the accuser back in 2020. The two accounts were created on the same day, had generic usernames, the stories were not logistically possible as there was proof shown where Brendon was at the time of said allegations. When this proof was brought to the attention of the "accuser" they deleted their accounts with one account admitting they, in fact, made the stories up. This must be removed. Bellabee24 (talk) 14:03, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Potentially notable information (activism and philanthropy)

All of the information (with citations) that I added that got removed can be viewed here (scroll down to the section) and the removal can be viewed here. I recently added some notable information to the article that was removed for being "overkill." This is understandable, I don't object to the trimming, as articles should be concise. Everything looks pretty good.
However, I think there are some potentially notable information that can still be considered for inclusion. I.e., it can be better conveyed that the figure is an advocate for LGBT causes (how he's advocated and why he does it), that his performances are commonly paired with and accompanied by LGBT themes/paraphernalia, plus his involvement against Westboro and the blood drive for the Orlando night club victims. Additionally, the figure's charity foundation is a large and notable aspect, I believe; therefore, I think the concert ticket gimmick could be explained, as well as what the purpose of the foundation is (launched for those discriminated against on the basis of race, sexuality, etc.) All of the aforementioned have been covered extensively and can be well-sourced. Again, I don't significantly object to trimming of information, but I think the activism section could be slightly expanded upon, since the figure is well-known for their activism and philanthropy. If this info is ultimately deemed unnecessary, then that is fine too. I just figured I'd make a note on this talk page for what it's worth. - Patmos777 (talk) 17:04, 6 October 2023 (UTC)