Talk:Brian Eno/Archive 1
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Pronunciation of "Eno"?
Just curious -- Eno: /i:noU/, /EnoU/, or something else?
- I don't know that I've ever heard him pronounce it, but I have only heard it pronounced "EE no." I'm sure I've heard Bowie or another colleague say it that way at one time or another. -- Wapcaplet 03:51, 2 Dec 2003 (UTC)
- Pronounced "ee-no" also in Mike Keneally's Eno and the Actor. I presume it's the same name at least :)
the main page
There's something wrong on the Discography section. There's no mention that Eno was a founder member of Roxy Music and played on the first two records. It would be nice to correct the page.
- If you feel a change is needed, feel free to make it yourself! Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone — including you — can edit any article by clicking the edit this page tab at the top of the page. You don't even need to log in, although there are several reasons why you might want to. Wikipedia convention is to be bold and not be afraid of making mistakes. If you're not sure how editing works, have a look at How to edit a page, or try out the Sandbox to test your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. —No-One Jones (m) 18:29, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Clean up tag
I found this page very hard to read. Unsectioned text should not go on for longer than a page. I would fix it up, but I don't know much about Brian Eno.
Reinstated deletions
I see the picture and all categories were removed by 83.132.223.34 on 01:00, 20 Apr 2005. I've reinstated everything and added a few extra categories. --Bruce1ee 12:33, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
"founding member" of Roxy Music?
I'm not sure Eno was a "founding member" of Roxy Music. I thought that he was a friend of Andy Mackay, who asked him to join as they had a synthesiser which no-one knew how to use? Can anyone confirm this? andy-106 20 May 2005
- Well you are more-or-less correct, however Eno was only joining Ferry & MacKay at this point (and possibly the original bass player?) - Manzanera & Thompson were recruited much later. --feline1 15:28, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
Roxy was the brainchild of Ferry, who recruited his bassist friend Graham Simpson, then placed an ad that drew MacKay, who in turn pulled in Eno. Given that Eno was part of the first incarnation of Roxy Music--including their first gigs and demo recordings-- I think it is fair to call him a "founding member." BTfromLA 16:34, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
- That's makes him part of the original line-up but doesn't make him a founder of Roxy Music. --Andy-106 09:19, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I recently quoted the "cofounder" term from the article and was promptly told that Ferry and MacKay co-founded Roxy, which may also not be correct according to BTfromLA. Anyway, if Eno was later dismissed by Ferry, these facts collectively suggest Andy-106's position is correct: Eno was an original line-up member, but not a cofounder. It's been a year since this issue was posted -- how about a regular here making that change from "cofounder" to "original line-up" or similar edit, and see if there's any significant rv objection? Milo 20:35, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- I haven't been much of a regular, but I nevertheless made a few changes in response to your note. I just made him a "member" of the early Roxy--I think wrangling over the who-did-what-when in that band can be reserved for the Roxy Music article. Make sense? BTfromLA 00:34, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks BTfromLA, you've nicely finessed the contentions. And sure, why not let Roxy Music handle them. The rest of the section reads a lot better too -- I now get clearly get what Eno was doing at the mixing desk. I suggest putting back the bit at the end where Eno thinks about his laundry on stage. It's harmless and a great line to quote to friends. Milo 06:25, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, the laundry bit isn't from Roxy Music - that's a quote about when he decided to give up playing solo gigs (with "the Winkies"). --feline1 12:07, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Eno on Wikipedia
In an interview to Le Monde (August 16, 2005), Brian Eno lauded Wikipedia (announced in bold title) and said that he had edited the article about himself. David.Monniaux 19:16, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
In a lecture opening the 2006 Free Thinking festival (November 3, 2006) "I looked at the entry on me the other day. It's more up to date on me than I am." -farlane, 12:55 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Categories "Gay musicians" and "Roman Catholics" added ...
Rms125a@hotmail.com added those categories (declaring that a minor change?). Can that information be verified? --BNutzer 07:08, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
- I'm in favor of reverting it until such evidence can be provided. -- Krash (Talk) 14:48, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
- The name Brian Peter George St. John le Baptiste de la Salle Eno is so Catholic it might be wearing a biretta! BTLizard 11:42, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
be careful Susume-eat 05:28, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
From a BBC 4 TV documentary today (January 22 2010) it appears that Eno was raised in a Catholic background, and went to a Catholic school, but no longer regards himself as a Catholic.86.181.158.139 (talk) 22:05, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Eno is married, with a daughter, and describes himself as heterosexual. See, for example, the list on http://www.moredarkthanshark.org/ . He does say the Wikipedia entry is more up to date about him than he is, though, so perhaps he hasn't yet read the "gay musicians" list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quoz (talk • contribs) 03:30, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Playlist on Rhapsody
I added a Playlist to all of Brian Eno's stuff on Rhapsody, it links to my website only because wikipedia doesn't allow rpl upload's.. I'm wondering if there is a better way to do this because people may download it thinking its a virus or something.. I'm going to work out a way to do this better I think.. But that RPL file is a Rhapsody Playlist.. I've been using Rhapsody (version 2.1 ) since September of last year and love it.. They convert about 3000 albums a month, and I scour the collection for tasty stuff and put rhapsody playlists to the stuff on my site.. So far I have all top 100 hits from every year 1976 through 1986.. But it looks like Billboard is finally starting to shut down all the sites with copies of their picks (stupid).. Anyhow, I'm starting to use a service in england to get more precise, like month by month references, like I have the top ~400 hits for the UK in 1990, and making playlists with that.. I'm trying to push Real to associating dates and times to the content so people can say reproduce the music for a particular time of the day on a certain year.. Anyhow, having playlists for each musician is a related dream, I've had.. Anyhow.. Take it or leave it, I don't care.. I'll leave it up for each community to decide.. --Rofthorax 07:13, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
Added info for Music for Films
I just added info for Music for Films feel free to update it, it was bothering me that when I went from the album before or after it back and forth that the album info wasn't entered. JohnRussell 05:14, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Laurie Anderson's Bright Red
Eno produced that record, references:
Sourced Miles Davis influence reverted: wiki-stalking?
1) I had inserted in the Brian Eno article a paragraph where I noted the influence Miles Davis had on Eno, backed with an Eno quote and sourced with an url to his liner notes:
- In 1981, back from Ghana and before On Land, he discovers Miles Davis' 1974 ambient jazz dirge "He Loved Him Madly": "Teo Macero's revolutionary production on that piece seemed to me to have the "spacious" quality I was after, and like "Amarcord", it too became a touchstone to which I returned frequently." [1]
2) In a second edit, I had also updated one of the external links, the one about the site I had just visited for sourcing the Eno quote about Miles Davis (they host the liner notes). The original uninformative link was:
- EnoWeb – unofficial fan site
Which I had edited to an hypertext summary of the main content/resources:
- EnoWeb.co.uk – fan site: News - FAQ - Discog - Interviews - Lyrics - Liner notes
External links are supposed to be described and explain what content or resources can be found, why the link is useful, even at length if required, as seen on WP:1SP#External_links_.28also_called_Further_reading.29.
3) Both have then been reverted by User:Krash, and w/o any justification (which is required when reverting something that's not patent vandalism): (diff)
4) Disclosure: I currently have an edit conflict with User:Krash and User:Feline1 on Fripp & Eno's No Pussyfooting. (They contend that an article about an album that's two side-long 20-min tracks would be "messed up" and "spoiled" by my adding a one-liner "See also" link to the List of songs over fifteen minutes in length, which lists the album's tracks.)
In this context, Krash's unjustified reversion to the Eno article sure looks like petty abuse, wiki-stalking, and vandalism. And not providing a rational for reverting my edit, which clearly wasn't vandalism, sure looks like plausible denial for it.
-- 62.147.113.180 18:44, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
- 1) This is a misunderstanding. When looking at this edit, it initially appeared to me that you deleted a chunk of text. Sorry to say, anonymous editors don't get the respect they so often deserve around here.
- 2) You're linkfarming. From Wikipedia:Spam: "Don't gratuitously set off our spam radar. There are certain stylistic behaviors that will say "spam!" loud and clear to anyone who's watching: Adding many links to (or mentions of) the same site or product." Same site. Same site. Same site.
- 3) Combining my (incorrect) assumptions from #1 with my dislike for linkspam/linkfarming of #2, I feel that I was more than justified to revert. I guess this has been a terrible burden on you. I'd apologize if you weren't acting like such a dick now.
- 4) Don't confuse me with another editor. Don't make false accusations. Don't jump to conclusions. Don't bring moot irrelevant arguments from somewhere else into this. Your IP is never the same and it wasn't until you threw your little tantrum up there that I had any inclination to suspect that you're related to the editor of that other article or the anonymous authoritarian who showed up on my talk page. -- Krash (Talk) 19:46, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
- 1) & 2) are valid concerns, granted … 3) but the edit summaries of 62.147.* (who should really consider creating an account by the way) definitely were descriptive enough to justify a second look. A certain disgruntlement over a completely unexplained revert is understandable. And if this is a tantrum, then the dick is name-calling. Don't. (Curious though, under which reversion policy does "You lost your case when you started ranting like a lunatic. Thanks for playing." fall?) 4) Fair enough. Femto 21:29, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Long gap in "Solo work"
The section "Solo work" has no information on anything Eno recorded or performed between 1980 and 2004, with the exception of a brief mention of Nerve Net (1992). I realize Eno was focusing more on producing during this period, but I know he's done some of his own work during this time. An almost 25-year period surely deserves to be fleshed out more than this. Peter G Werner 11:44, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
Descent (An Ending)
Surely one of his most prominent tracks without a mention on Wikipedia?
It was the main theme music for 28 days later and featured as the warm up for Above and Beyond's Radio One Essential Mix as an extended re-edit in 2005.
- The track title is "An Ending (Ascent)" Tenoweb 19:30, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Missing discography references
Was just wondering if there was a reason why some albums are not referenced in Eno's discography. What comes to mind are some of his "best of"s, such as 1986's "Desert Island Selection" or his two box set collections. There are also other albums that feature his work, typically along with other Edition EG artists, and his work on individual soundtracks (like the piece he composed for the Dune soundtrack for example). Any objection to adding these to the listing, maybe under different sub-categories (i.e. "Best of", "Compilations", "Soundtracks", etc)? Captmondo 21:33, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
Eno Cover record link
Added a link called "Eno cover record that Eno likes." http://www.saucefaucet.com/tiger.html
It was removed as vandalism by John Baez. I put it back.
I feel it's a legit link, it's a record I had nothing to do with, a complete reinterpretation of "Taking Tiger Mountain." Eno has heard the record, loves it, and there's a recording of a phone message from Eno on the page and on the record of Eno saying how much he loves it.
Note: I forgot to log in when I first posted it. Is that part of why it was deleted? Sorry.
--ElizaBarrington, 30 May, 2006
- Am being a bit nit-picky maybe, but shouldn't a link for this go on Taking Tiger Mountain (By Strategy) rather than on the main Eno page? There are a lot of cover albums out there (even a few where an entire album has been covered) so wouldn't it be more appropropriate to link it from that album's page instead of the artist's?
- As an aside, I am likely to be a future consumer of said cover album. ;-) Captmondo 14:36, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
- Captmondo speaks wisdom. The cover-album spam link should leave this page, and go to the Album's own page.--feline1 14:50, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Eno's video and audio installations
Just a little note: this article doesn't seem to be well balanced, becouse there is not enough coverage on the 1990s.
I am seeking any information regarding...:
Brian Eno's Video and Audio Installations
I visited one of those in 1987 in Italy; I can't forget that experience because it helped me to understand the essence of ambient music, and its difference with similar genres or styles, such as space music, minimalist music, "new age" and "soundscap-ed" or "ambienced" house and techno. Brian W 03:19, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Jean-Baptiste de la Salle
I don't know Eno very well, but his lengthy name I think should have some citation, to accompany the brief explanation in the education and early career section. I didn't want to put the tag [citation needed] on the page, since I don't doubt the veracity, but if the editor who added this could cite, it would help the article substantiate that Eno in fact has 11 separate words in his name. Castellanet 02:11, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
The pretentious part of his (alleged)name is undoubtedly taken from that of the founder of the order of de la Salle brothers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Baptiste_de_la_Salle194.217.4.122 (talk) 20:02, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
You're responding to a question asked 3 years ago; I'm not certain this is still an issue! I'm also not sure that just one part of the name could be regarded as pretentious, it's more the idea of having such a long name. And as for saying it's "undoubtably from..." something, all you need is one person to ask why that is being presumed, and you have a need for citation again. The question was not so much why does he have this name, but rather, is it really the name on his birth certificate, or is it just a made-up claim for publicity? --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 13:23, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Passengers
Should Eno's work with Passengers be added to this page? I could not find it mentioned anywhere on the page, but as it was an important album he released with U2, I feel it should be included also. Reekie 21:33, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Photos
I've got two GFDL photos of Eno that I took recently. One (A) is a good angle, but blurry (the lights had been turned off). The second (B) is much clearer, but the angle is not as good. Which one should we use? --Bungopolis 21:45, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
- Good job on getting public domain photos, though I've gotta say it's a shame we couldn't get a picture of Brian in his prime. :( Charlie 03:03, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
hang on - if I look as good as that at his age - i would rather have that photo than me in my prime we need more photos of people aging gloriously and fantastically rather than the tabloid botoxed (sic) images - this IS eno in his prime - he has done so much and continues to push boundaries Ericmakesthree (talk) 12:27, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
School Days
I went to St Joseph's College in Ipswich and I remember my chemistry teacher telling us stories about "Young Ferry". However, he never mentioned Eno. Now I read in the article that he also attended the College. Did they meet there? Does anybody know? Is it worth including this info in the article if they did?
Thanks
--tonis1 15:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
YouTube user name davidjd will confirm that Eno was there as he was at the time as well, it may have been your teacher's peverse sense of humour referring to him as Ferry as he wasn't there to my knowledge. The teachers used to mispronounce his name enno. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.238.110.156 (talk) 15:28, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Further to that davidjd said he was referred to as the boy with the Hamletian haircut. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.74.207.203 (talk) 17:57, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Snake Guitar
Does anyone know what this is? Eno is credited with playing one on Taking Tiger Mountain and the wikipedia page for "snake guitar" redirects to this page. I am not sure how I feel about there being a wiki page for something that we don't know what it is. My feeling is that the snake guitar page should be deleted or perhaps the redirect should be changed to point to Taking Tiger Mountain? Wikikob 10:01, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
- Apparently its some sort of Eno custom guitar treatment.[2] A redirect to Tiger Mountain would be more appropriate than a redirect here. I went ahead and did that, though it'd be cool if we could find more info on Eno's "treatments" to instruments. Wickethewok 10:08, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
There is a video on Youtube of him playing guitar in a very strange manner... And now I can't find it. He does play actual guitar however, and in a very angular fashion, which, yes, can sound like a snake. - BuddyOfHolly
Empty Landscapes?
- Does anyone have any info on this Eno album? I haven't been able to find anything about it. Wickethewok 21:04, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
A bootleg perhaps?
Tim gueguen 20:12, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Eno and Spore
I don't believe Eno is working on the Spore soundtrack. The article cited refers to a lecture where Eno and Wright use Spore to discuss Generative Systems but does not say anything about a collaborative effort between the two. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 142.162.239.147 (talk) 00:10, 12 April 2007 (UTC).
Chronology links for individual album pages
The "chronology links" for Eno's album pages appear to be hopelessly muddled. For eaxmple, (No Pussyfooting) and Here Come the Warm Jets each list the other as the previous album; similarly with Before and After Science and Cluster & Eno.
For albums released in the same year, I suggest they be ordered alphabetically by album title until and unless the specific month and day of release can be established. --Register allocation 21:44, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Dune
What about his contributions to Dune (David Lynch, 1984). He composed the score, even though it was recorded by Toto.
- The Dune soundtrack was composed and performed by Toto. The only track composed and performed by Brian Eno (with Roger Eno and Daniel Lanois) was "The Prophecy Theme". Tenoweb 19:34, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
- I note that in the Eno article it implies he composed and performed "Prophecy" alone; if Roger Eno and Daniel Lanois were involved then perhaps it should be clarified... Cheers, Ian Rose 01:24, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Label
However, it has been suggested also that Eno was "removed from Roxy" by their label, EG.
Roxy's label at that time (1973) was actually Island Records. The E.G. Records label wasn't formed until some time after 1977, as that article makes clear. 217.155.20.163 23:57, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
- I think EG was their label in the sense that they owned the recordings and licensed them to Island. They subsequently appeared on Polydor and (I think) Virgin. BTLizard 11:09, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Block quotes need consistency
Just looking at the article, some of the block quotes (the ones that are indented and generally long quotations)begin and end with quotation marks, i.e. "like this" but others do not, i.e. like this. I don't know which is the standardised style, so if someone wants to look that up, it would tidy up this article :)
Classical Composer
His ambient music albums can be considered also classical music. Who else agrees ? 85.240.18.225 (talk) 16:59, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
- I agree.--Doktor Who (talk) 00:26, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
- No. No it can't. Having a piano doesn't make it classical.NeverWorker (Drop me a line) 15:14, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
- Um, anyone who knows that a lot of what is called "classical" music is actually "romantic."
Qu'ran
Removal of the track Qu'ran from My Life in the Bush of Ghosts due to pressure from Muslims is attested on the album's page, so I'm going to put the statement back in. Alexwoods (talk) 18:49, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Such a statement will not stand without inline citation. If it's true then provide a citation and it will stay.Mike Presson (talk) 02:48, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
- I put the cite in. Please let me know, before deleting it, if it presents any problems as currently written. Thanks. Alexwoods (talk) 15:28, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
- I changed the wording slightly to more accurately reflect what Byrne seems to be saying in the cited interview. Klausness (talk) 11:12, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Associated Acts
In line with articles on other Musicians, I think the associated acts section of the infobox should be edited just include bands of which Eno was an official member, not just any band he has worked with or produced. Kristmace (talk) 15:14, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Spore music
is can be mentioned in article that Eno is making music for gameyayfapfap? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.1.253.80 (talk) 13:48, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
- You are welcome to add any information if you have a citation. Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 14:01, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
I made a Brian Eno userbox ( Wikipedia:Userboxes ) if anyone wants to put it on their userpage, here if the code:
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Slowdive
I've removed Slowdive from the list of bands whose albums Eno produced: while he did contribute to a couple of songs on Souvlaki, the article implied that he produced a whole album (or more than one albums) by the band. If anyone can find a way to re-insert the information while making it clear that he contributed just the two songs, please feel free Dom Kaos (talk) 23:26, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
As Eno's locked (probably for mentioning the Koran!) could someone please make a tiny edit? In the section headed "2000s" near the bottom the line: "In 2007, Eno's music will be featured in a movie adaption of Irvine Welsh's best-selling collection Ecstasy: Three Tales of Chemical Romance." should be "was featured" .
Spielberg (talk) 16:05, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
- Done. The article wasn't protected for me. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 13:52, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Music Theorist?
No evidence provided. And he isn't one, by all but the very broadest definitions. Reads as if the author is trying to credential Eno. Its not an advocacy page. Should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.34.22.254 (talk) 00:39, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- Quite right, he is not a music theorist. I removed this from the article but somebody put it back - either a fanboy or Eno himself. notoriousd (talk) 18:52, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
"father of ambient music"
As there is no reference to back this claim up, and as there are certainly other musicians who would have an equal claim to this title (Satie, Riley, Cage, Debussy, Ravel and others). While there is little doubt of his influence in the popularising the term "ambient" to describe the the music he and others produced, it is more difficult to claim that this genre started with him, Using the term "father" clearly implies this —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.195.14.23 (talk) 11:16, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Agreed. There were a number of musicians making ambient music before Eno (Edward Artemiev's soundtrack for the 1972 film Solaris is just one example). It just wasn't labelled as such.212.182.133.214 (talk) 12:09, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
Sydney Opera House
Is Eno's work on lighting up the Sydney Opera House in 2009 going to rate a mention? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.236.35.192 (talk) 13:36, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Just Being Eno
In the section #Record_production, the second paragraph mentions that he has contributed to albums "as just being 'Eno'." As someone who knows very little about Eno, this statement means exactly nothing to me. Can we get a little explanation? Bobbygalaxy (talk) 01:43, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
MGMT
MGMT have included a song called "Brian Eno" on their new album "Congratulations". Don't know where this should go into the article but I think it definately needs a mention —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.239.248.191 (talk) 02:46, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
- The mere mention of Eno's name is not worth including in his Wikipedia entry Lopifalko (talk) 08:20, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
No New York
Brian Eno was responsible for the album and produced the album. Would this be worth a mention in the wiki page as it is a key album in Brian Eno's career and the No Wave genre. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.5.246.222 (talk) 23:00, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
jameos del agua
He composed the music used at this venue in Lanzarote. could someone update this article?
- you will need to provide a source for that. Kaini (talk) 04:50, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Best known for...?
The top para of the lead says Eno is "best known as one of the principal innovators of ambient music". I'm fairly confident he's best known as a member of the early Roxy Music, however brief and long ago that period was. The "best-known" element of the phrase appears to be unsourced. I suggest we remove it and include his Roxy Music fame in that sentence. Spicemix (talk) 16:49, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
- I disagree. For one thing, it would be unjust to remove that major reference to his contributions to ambient music since that is what he has devoted most of his career to and likely his most significant achievement. His time in Roxy Music is well covered in the lead already, and given that it isn't in the grand scheme of things the dominant theme of his career, as ambient music is, it wouldn't be right to replace it in the way you suggest. Grunge6910 (talk) 19:04, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
- "Best known" seems a little subjective, even with direct sources. I wonder if there is a difference between UK and US over this, especially in view of his later collaboration with David Byrne and Talking Heads. I think all three of these strands of his career deserve equal mention in the lead section. But I also think that the current opening section is a bit too long! Martinevans123 (talk) 19:26, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
- Agreed about the length. Maybe just subtract the "best" and leave it as "known as one of the..."? Grunge6910 (talk) 20:21, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
- "Best known" seems a little subjective, even with direct sources. I wonder if there is a difference between UK and US over this, especially in view of his later collaboration with David Byrne and Talking Heads. I think all three of these strands of his career deserve equal mention in the lead section. But I also think that the current opening section is a bit too long! Martinevans123 (talk) 19:26, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
- Grunge6910 is disagreeing with something I didn't say: The "best-known" element of the phrase appears to be unsourced. I suggest we remove it, and then saying the same thing in his next post: Maybe just subtract the "best" and leave it as "known as one of the..."?. So we have consensus on that. But to omit RM from a long list of points in the top para is ignoring a highly notable element of his career and the one for which I think he is most widely known. Nor is it isolated, but entirely integrated in his later work, with his many collaborations with RM personnel. Nor is his time in RM particularly well-covered in the lead already. So I think a mention of RM should go in that top para. Spicemix (talk) 12:19, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
Why is the Personal Life section so Barren?
I get it that Eno edits this page and prefers to keep his personal life deleted, but is that allowed, advisable or perferred by wiki users? The single remaining sentence mocks all wiki users. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.171.190.119 (talk) 01:17, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
Merge "record production and other projects" with solo career
I can understand the need for a "Roxy Music" section and a "Solo work" section. I don't understand why a separate section is needed for his "Record production and other projects" especially considering that much of his "other projects" (e.g. the Microsoft sound) are quite arguably a part of his solo work. He IS a record producer and an artist just as much as he is a musician. As highlighted in: Talk:Brian_Eno#Clean up tag, Talk:Brian_Eno#Long gap in "Solo work" and Talk:Brian_Eno#Chronology links for individual album pages, the article is very difficult to follow partly because of the hopeless "muddling" between what constitutes solo work and what is an "other project". Surely, a straightforward, linear, article containing a chronological record of what he done in each decade would make more sense. Usually I'd WP:BRD but I don't want to go through the effort of merging the sections if anyone has strong objections right now. Charon123able (talk) 15:57, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
Paragraph about Frippertronics contradicts itself
The paragraph starts off stating (imho incorrectly) that Eno invented a specific tape-delay system: "In 1972, Eno developed a tape-delay system first utilised by Eno and Robert Fripp..." At the end of the paragraph this is contradicted by the following sentence: "It is said the technique was borrowed from minimalist composer Terry Riley, whose tape delay feedback system with a pair of Revox tape recorders (a setup Riley used to call the "Time Lag Accumulator") was first used on Riley's album Music for The Gift in 1963." I'm editing the first sentence to resolve this contradiction.212.182.133.214 (talk) 11:48, 29 April 2013 (UTC)