Talk:British literature in languages other than English

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See British literature Talk for the discussion for the need for this article [1]]. Rwood128 (talk) 13:09, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

Duplicate?

It seems to me that this is duplicating content found on the pages for the literature of each language. I don't particularly see why these belong in one unified article. Catrìona 19:53, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

This article is a survey of the topic, so If there is excessive detail, more appropriate in the main articles, it should be removed. This article was created from material originally in the article British literature. Rwood128 (talk) 12:42, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Yes, but these languages have distinct origins, histories, and literature and very little in common. This article just summarizes each subject without synthesizing or explaining the relatedness. In order to justify including these disparate topics in one article, there should be a convincing connection made between, for instance, Latin literature and Cornish literature. Combining all these languages into one survey article seems to me almost as bizarre as having an super-article for European literature excluding French, nonstandard varieties of German, and Vulgar Latin. I could understand Literature in the Celtic Languages (anything would be an improvement over what's currently at Celtic literature!), but that wouldn't include Norse, Latin, etc. be restricted to the British Isles. Some of these issues could be resolved without deletion but I don't really understand what this article could add to Wikipedia even with a lot of work. Catrìona 18:13, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

If you're not in favor of deletion, I feel like the geographical scope of the article shouldn't cleave exclusively to Britain's contemporary political boundaries. The exclusion of most Irish literature post-independence is particularly bizarre; there is continuity in Irish literature pre- and post-independence and the existence of the border doesn't really affect the production and consumption of such literature. I suppose it's the same rationale for excluding Scots. Catrìona 18:13, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Many thanks, Catrìona, for this. I cobbled this article together from bits and pieces in the article British literature, as part of an effort to make that article more succinct. These items were then deleted from British literature. The new article has received little editing, so that your critique is therefore most apt and useful.

I fully understand why you feel that the article should be deleted, but I like the idea of an article that draws attention to, and surveys, the variety of literature in other languages than English, which is parallel with the articles British literature, and Languages of the United Kingdom‎. In a way it is an appendix to the British literature article.

If the whole of Ireland after 1922 is included, shouldn't Brittany also be included? Maybe the article can include brief discussion of this, non-British literature. A revised title, such as "Literature in the other languages of Britain and Ireland", may be problematic.

Certainly the article needs attention. Rwood128 (talk) 16:24, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Celtic languages

I'm not an expert, but I presume that the following was deleted because of the highlighted phrase: "Until fairly recent times the original Celtic languages continued to be spoken in Scotland, Wales, Cornwall, and Ireland, and still survive, especially in parts of Wales". Thanks for this, but wouldn't it have been more helpful, Alázhlis, to have corrected it? I would have tried myself, but don't know enough. Rwood128 (talk) 12:54, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

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Would it not be clearer to call this article "Literature in languages of the British Isles other than English" ? Vorbee (talk) 15:39, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

It would be. Current title is less clear and sounds like English POV. -84.161.5.242 (talk) 20:16, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

"Literature in languages of the British Isles other than English" is too cumbersome. And "British Isles" is problematic, because of Ireland. Rwood128 (talk) 22:53, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

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