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Former good articleBroad Run High School was one of the Social sciences and society good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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January 5, 2007Good article nomineeListed
July 19, 2009Good article reassessmentDelisted
Current status: Delisted good article

Amount of citations

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Latest comment: 17 years ago6 comments3 people in discussion

I do like the fact that citations are put in the article and they do show the integrity of the article and why Broad Run has a GA rating. However, it seems that nearly every sentence has a citation next to it in some paragraphs. Do any of you think that some citations can be removed or at least that some areas seem to be with great deals of footnotes? 20176 04:21, 1 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

I've been dwelling on that for weeks now, and have the same impression. However, the Manual of Style is pretty specific and supports lots of cites for these reasons —
  1. To credit a source for providing useful information and to avoid claims of plagiarism.
  2. To show that your edit isn't original research.
  3. To ensure that the content of articles is credible and can be checked by any reader or editor.
  4. To help users find additional reliable information on the topic.
  5. To improve the overall credibility and authoritative character of Wikipedia.
  6. To reduce the likelihood of editorial disputes, or to resolve any that arise.
I think we're mostly focused on 3, 5, 4, 2, and 6 here, in that order (or something close to it). So adequate citing is important. But I do think it interferes with readability. Consequently, I've been doing research, mostly reading Featured articles and comparing them to BR's. I'd like to get it to the point very soon of having a peer review so we can nominate it for FA status. The level of citing on FAs varies considerably. I think one issue we have is that of necessity there are quite a few statistics in the article. Possibly what we can do is move some of the specific cites from the Footnote section to the Sources section. These citations are certainly there to demonstrate credibility, but, more practically, they are maps for future editors to update stats that will change. Locating them in the Sources section still facilitates that purpose.
First thing, though, I'm going to remove 90% of the cites in the lead. This should be no problem since everything in the lead should be supported and covered in the rest of the article (and will therefore be cited there). That will improve readability. That means some expansion of the History section, but that was needed anyways.
I'm also going to ask for some input from Appraiser: she/he did the GA review and is knowledgeable.
—  Jim Dunning  talk  : 04:52, 1 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
I know it seems excessive, but i figure we should probably err on the side of caution. I agree with increasing readability, especially in the lead, but we need to make sure at the same time we still have all our claims verified. The lead can probably lose most of them (unless we are supposed to cite facts the first time they are stated. I am unsure if we are required to do this or not). Also, would moving some of the citations to the end of the paragraph be acceptable? I know for most scholastic papers I was taught I should cite a source at the end of the sentence in which it is being used. -- Johnny06man 14:54, 1 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
After reading more than a few leads, the tacit style seems to lean toward minimal citing. The expressed style for leads, however, is to only state information that is explored more fully in the article body, like any good introduction. Therefore, I think we're safe in eliminating the refs in the lead as long as we're diligent about including the supporting information and cites in the body.
Also, I think we may be able to eliminate many of the missing cites after I go through some more yearbook volumes. I'll do this as quickly as I can so we can get the article in shape for peer review.
—  Jim Dunning  talk  : 19:31, 1 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
Agreed. Thanks again for all the hard work going through the yearbooks! -- Johnny06man 22:09, 1 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
You're welcome. All those yearbooks are squirreled away in a secret room at BR. Fortunately, they leave it unlocked a lot.
—  Jim Dunning  talk  : 04:20, 2 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

Long lead

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Latest comment: 17 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Can the lead be trimmed at all? It's a touch long for an article of this type. PhoenixTwo 23:32, 29 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

I think most of the first paragraph can go under the History section 20176 00:44, 30 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

Fair use rationale for Image:Loudoun Seal.jpg

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Merge of Historical and statistical detail for Broad Run High School

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Latest comment: 15 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

This is a high school. It can't possibly justify two articles being written on it. If the historical and statistical detail is too much detail to go into the main article, it's also too recondite to go into an article of its own. -- The Anome (talk) 13:32, 12 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

Incorrect Location Being Automatically Entered into Facebook

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As many probably know, schools, business, etc, that one can link to their facebook page have their own facebook pages which are linked directly to its Wiki page and all of its Wiki info is used, automatically, to create its page. For this article, the Broad Run High School school page lists Broad Run as being located in Ashburn, Georgia. The facebook page can not be edited and I find no reference to it's location being in Ashburn, Georgia. Something is getting lost in translation.

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