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Latest comment: 2 years ago by Jtbobwaysf in topic Promotional edits
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An ip address belonging to ogaming.com, 66.253.32.34, has been editing this article, removing information. Ogaming.com is registered to Brock Pierce. Wikipedia's stance on editing articles about oneself: "It is difficult to write neutrally about yourself. Therefore, it is considered proper on Wikipedia to let others do the writing. Instead, contribute material or make suggestions on the article's talk page and let independent editors write it into the article itself." Wikipedia:Autobiography

My edits were reversed for failing to mention them in the edit page. My apologies. On that note, though, the sourcing in this article does not support the references to sexual harassment allegations against the subject of this article. These are rather serious claims, and the only one of the three sources that even implies Pierce's involvement is a tabloid website. The others make no reference to Pierce in the context of sexual harassment allegations, other than to mention that they were denied by the company. These allegations simply do not belong in a encyclopedic article about an individual. The arrests in Spain, as well as the "fleeing" allegation, are also PoV, if not libelous.

all the sources document them leaving the country and the new york post article is not only cited in the sentence, but says almost verbatim what is in the article (don't just rely on the summary). - Ocatecir 21:02, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
[1]: "The founders of flopcom Digital Entertainment Network (DEN) are still languishing in a Spanish jail, and investigators in the US are stepping up efforts to bring them home to face sex offence charges. DEN co-founders Marc Collins-Rector, Chad Shackley and Brock Pierce were arrested in June on an international warrant after being indicted in New Jersey on five counts of transporting a minor across state lines for the purpose of engaging in sexual acts." - Ocatecir 21:04, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I don't know how I missed the last citation, though it seems to me that it's the only one that supports the obviously central point of the sentence (which isn't that he left the United States, obviously). Good word and advice. Thanks. Groundworking 21:10, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Apparently Brock Pierce has left IGE - details a little unclear, but apparently its now owned by Jonathan Yantis, who was part of some company IGE bought. I also heard this from private sources in addition to the article linked below

http://f13.net/index.php?itemid=555


Brock Pierce has left Affinity Media (The umbrella company around Zam and formerly around IGE). I violate the neutrality rule since I work for Affinity, so I'll post it here on the Talk page.

http://www.affinitymedia.com/announcement.html Danalog 01:31, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

"Brock Pierce is a major shareholder in IGE" needs a more modern citation, since all of the affinity business has occurred since that article was written, and it is no longer apparent that he is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.7.47.183 (talk) 17:24, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

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Latest comment: 15 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Someone should use this. Interesting stuff. The Decline and Fall of an Ultra Rich Online Gaming Empire Shrumster (talk) 18:47, 7 December 2008 (UTC) amended by Onanoff (talk) 10:01, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

There is a lot of story behind this guy. Plus a bonus connection to Steve Bannon, who took over from him as CEO of his flagship company. Detailed tellings of the story in the above main link, and:

Citations for Content That Keeps Getting Removed

Latest comment: 2 years ago5 comments5 people in discussion

Information about Piece's resignation from DEN over alleged sexual harassment keeps getting removed from the article. I want to put references here so that they are not lost as the article continues to have negative information removed.

Wired Magazine Article on Den IPO and sex trafficing charges brough against Piece http://www.wired.com/gaming/virtualworlds/magazine/16-12/ff_ige?currentPage=all

A DEN OF INIQUITY ; AFTER 3-YEAR EXILE, WEB EXEC FACES PERV CHARGES http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/nypost/access/443848661.html?dids=443848661:443848661&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&date=Nov+11%2C+2003&author=STEPHEN+LYNCH&pub=New+York+Post&edition=&startpage=037&desc=A+DEN+OF+INIQUITY+

DEN Founder Marc Collins-Rector Arrested in Spain After Two-Year Manhunt - VentureReporter.net Monday, May 20, 2002, 4:15 PM ET

FAST COMPANY 11/05/07: A high-flying Web start-up, DEN imploded among allegations of drug use, guns, and pedophilia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.169.229.2 (talk) 05:27, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

above you state that the Wired Magazine Article on Den IPO includes mention of "and sex trafficing charges brough against Piece http://www.wired.com/gaming/virtualworlds/magazine/16-12/ff_ige?currentPage=all ". I read the article and nowhere is the term trafficking even used, nor is there a single mention of charges of sex trafficking being brought against Pierce. It is a shame that some people are not even able to read, write without spelling errors and are intent on using wikipedia to spread false information and then lie that it is supported by a source when it explicitly is not. SMendel (talk) 17:28, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/03/bryan-singers-accusers-speak-out/580462/ The Atlantic: ‘Nobody Is Going to Believe You’ "The Bohemian Rhapsody director Bryan Singer has been trailed by accusations of sexual misconduct for 20 years. Here, his alleged victims tell their stories." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scransom (talk • contribs) 17:04, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Ars Technica Article on Brock Pierce becoming a board member of the Bitcoin Foundation and the resignations that followed due to Pierce's sexual harassment allegations: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/05/some-in-bitcoin-group-resign-over-new-board-members-link-to-sex-abuse/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.125.27.181 (talk) 13:28, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, been fighting this battle for 12 years. --— OcatecirT 06:06, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Promotional edits

Latest comment: 2 years ago5 comments2 people in discussion

SMendel (talk · contribs) I rolled back your edits as you have been adding what appears to be promotional content to this article. Please review WP:MOS and note that the long quotes are not acceptable, and generally promotional wording is also not allowed. Please also disclose if you have an WP:COI to this article. This article is about a cryptocurreny subject and sanctions are currently in place on this range of articles. Thank you! Jtbobwaysf (talk) 05:34, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Jtbobwaysf (talk · contribs) I was not writing any promotional content on this article. Read the edits and point to one promotional thing I wrote. Everything I wrote was based on recent news sources and most of it direct quotes. Wikipedia is a place that was created for accurate information to be disseminated and I think that your attempt to censor my referencing and citation of dozens of actual news sources about the subject of the article goes against the principles of this platform. I have no WP:COI to this article. I am someone who is reads the news and follows cryptocurrency and politics closely. I noticed that the wikipedia page was missing much of the latest news about Pierce so I decided to add to the page to more accurately reflect the current information with sources that are publicly available on unbiased news publications and websites. I would like you to closely read all of the edits I made and reconsider your hasty attempt to censor me because of your pre-judgement. I explicitly cited a Master's Dissertation by someone who is arguably unsympathetic to Pierce and discusses a relationship between energy colonialism and cryptocurrency. SMendel (talk) 05:57, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
taking into account your comment about long quotes, I edited the article accordingly to remove long quotes and made sure that my writing style adheres to the wikipedia norms. SMendel (talk) 06:25, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
Do you have a WP:COI relating to this article? Please remove all the quotes you have added, they are generally not WP:DUE. A masters dissertation is not an WP:RS on this article, nor are any blogs, etc. Please remove all that. There is a clearly established consensus to clamp down on promotionalism and strengthen sourcing in crypto subject articles, thus your revert is a violation of policy. You have admitted you are a cyptocurrency enthsiast and this is a crypto subject, you must follow those guidelines. Jtbobwaysf (talk) 02:34, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
@David Gerard: maybe you could watch this article. Seems that the article is now subject of PR edits. Large insertion of content relating to article subject's wife, some quaisy philanthropic organization, quite possibly paid PR edits. I did a rollback, which was reverted by the user that added it, and so I subsequently have gone through and removed some of the bad sources, but in general its a lot of spin. Thanks! Jtbobwaysf (talk) 09:58, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
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