Talk:Bronislav Kaminski

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This article makes Kaminski look too benign. --Ch.Zalka 85.2.220.57 15:12, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Concur. In any book I've read, Kaminski comes out a hellish figure. However, no direct references to (or specific examples of) his crimes are cited, so it'd be great if anybody with more factual knowledge edited the article. 212.188.108.174 01:18, 10 December 2006 (UTC) Dietmar

There never was a Russian SS division. Kaminsky had a brigade, the Germans planned to expand it into a division and reserved a number for it (29), but the plans were abandoned. You can look up Waffen-SS formations on this very site. While the lists do mention a "Russian SS division 29", the link leads to the article on a brigade with a detailed explanation how it never got to become a division. It's incorrect to say that Kaminsky commanded an SS division.

I also find it very suspicious that a man could be arrested in 1937 (above all other years) for critisizing Stalin, and then five years later he is miraclously out of prison working as an engineer. I saw reports of Kaminsky being jailed for stealing government property - that fits very well with the jail term _and_ the location of his incarceration (he obviously was not sent to Siberia). While it's nice to think (or invent) that Kaminsky was some kind of a political prisoner, there were no political prisoners in 1937 who would get five years, do the time at home, get released and get a nice job later.

Finally, the claim that the Soviet partisans called Kaminsky "the master of the Bryansk forests" is bizzare. It's like saying that the Oklahoma police called Tim McVeigh the master of U-Haul trucks. And is Bin Laden known in the US as the master of exploding planes? Why would the partisans be so nice and flattering about Kaminsky? Moreover, where exactly they called him that? Is there some kind of a partisan newspaper, or a memoir even, where some Russian seriously called an SS general a master of the Bryansk forests? Perhaps, it's just another bullshit in the long line of bullshit in this article?

Also, the article on Kaminsky Brigade is somehow much more informative on Kaminsky's bio than this one. And it does mention specific examples of his crimes, etc. Someone did a very poor job here.

please check the german page of this topic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.74.207.198 (talk) 20:31, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Link to Russian wiki article which appears to have more extensive sources https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9,_%D0%91%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2_%D0%92%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87 Isthisuseful (talk) 08:48, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Link to Polish article with reference to warsaw uprising. https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronis%C5%82aw_Kaminski Isthisuseful (talk) 09:08, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Link to German article https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronislaw_Wladislawowitsch_Kaminski Isthisuseful (talk) 18:34, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

This article would benefit from a refresh from someone with knowledge of the subject area. Or alternatively someone who could utilise the Gernam and Russian sources. Isthisuseful (talk) 19:19, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Name

Why do Norman Davies and Andrew Borowiec in their books on the Warsaw Uprising call him Mieczysław Kaminski? DrKiernan (talk) 09:28, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Poland-importance

I don't see why he merits inclusion in the Polish military taskforce. Such projects are not usually for their opponents (i.e. fighting in Poland and against Poland does not make every every such soldier important to Poland). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 22:22, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Death

Kaminski's conviction in a court martial seems to be outdated info, as well as that he was "executed for war crimes" that I seem to have seen elsewhere. Germany and the Second World] says that circumstances of his death remain unclear. K.e.coffman (talk) 05:10, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Possibly. Sources give conflicting accounts on this matter.Volunteer Marek (talk) 18:15, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

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Name Bronislaw

In text there is information that his name is sometimes "(also transliterated German-style as "Bronislaw")". That's not true, Bronisław is just polish name, Bronislav is English transliteration from Russian. Because he was ethnic Pole, name Bronisław is correct for him, however as he identifed himself as a Russian, name Bronislav is also correct.

So please, delete this "(also transliterated German-style as "Bronislaw")" and write instead "(or Bronisław in Polish)". 2A01:11BF:529:7D00:ED2F:DBCF:E52D:37DA (talk) 17:59, 27 April 2023 (UTC)