Talk:Brooklyn Free School/GA1

Latest comment: 9 years ago by The Rambling Man in topic GA Review

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Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 08:15, 3 September 2015 (UTC)Reply


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  • "60s/70s" probably should be 1960s/70s.
  • Mildly confused by the location, prose says " Fort Greene, Brooklyn" while infobox says "Brooklyn, New York, Kings County", .... it may make sense to an American but it is entirely strange to me.
  • What's "a brownstone"? Ok, link it first time.
  • "Lucas Kavner of The Huffington Post called the Brooklyn Free School "arguably New York's most radical center of learning"." I know it's in the lead, but we normally reference all direct quotes wherever they're used.
  • "first session" is this equivalent to a first school term?
  • "30 students with three " MOSNUM, I'd go for "thirty ... with three"
  • "Lily Mercogliano is now" see WP:ASOF.
  • "sessions[5] until" you can safely move this ref to the end of the sentence, it's unpleasantly inserted right now.
  • " support her decision" why "her"?
  • Any criticism of the school since 2006?

That's it. It's a neat enough article, just a few pointers above to be addressed so I'll put it on hold. Apologies in the delay in reviewing it. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:20, 20 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

@The Rambling Man, thanks for the review! I think I got it all, if you'll take a look. Fort Greene is a neighborhood of Brooklyn. It wouldn't go in the infobox (there's no place for neighborhood in an address), but I think it makes sense in the prose since the neighborhood is independently notable. I prefer the footnote mid-sentence for verifiability's sake. Nothing major since 2006. – czar 16:16, 20 September 2015 (UTC)Reply
I would think it would be helpful to have Kings County (whatever that is) in the prose though, since it looks to be an entity bigger even than New York State given its order... The Rambling Man (talk) 18:29, 20 September 2015 (UTC)Reply
County level is between city and state. I just removed it for the sake of argument. – czar 18:34, 20 September 2015 (UTC)Reply
It did seem odd because it meant you had it like this: Brooklyn, New York, Brooklyn.... The Rambling Man (talk) 18:36, 20 September 2015 (UTC)Reply
The county is a peripheral entity anyway. While it is between the city and state in terms of size, the city/state are usually listed together. So I understand why the infobox order was as such, but it isn't particularly useful. Anyway, it's more a discussion for the infobox talk page than for here – czar 18:41, 20 September 2015 (UTC)Reply
Not really, if you wish to use that infobox then its use needs to stand up to scrutiny here. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:42, 20 September 2015 (UTC)Reply
I don't know what you mean. I entered the standard infobox fields and that's how it spat out the infobox (if there's an issue with the infobox, which is used across many articles, it's something to take up on the template's page). It's out of my purview. – czar 02:24, 23 September 2015 (UTC)Reply
I don't believe you should use templates if they don't produce expected results, but I can see this is going nowhere. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:35, 23 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

As for mid-sentence citations, really? End of paragraph citations are frequent at FA, so why not just keep the prose flowing and put the reference at the end of the sentence? I'm 100% nobody will EVER argue with the fact you wait until the end of the sentence to get the facts. Doubly ironic since you didn't originally reference the direct quote in the lead! The Rambling Man (talk) 18:42, 20 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

Mid-sentence citations are frequent at FA too. Hasn't been an issue, especially when it's to preserve source integrity. – czar 02:24, 23 September 2015 (UTC)Reply
Well it's unnecessary indeed, but not worth arguing over. I've passed the nomination. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:35, 23 September 2015 (UTC)Reply